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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by Intermernet »

cotinoco wrote: post #37
drcross wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Note was not a flagship line. Samsung has so many other industries that I think it will do just fine in the long run.

Of course the Note is a flagship line. And they did everything they could so they could have this phone out to compete with the iPhone 7.

I see the iPhone 7 as a competitor to the Galaxy S7 (quite a nice phone by the way). The Note range has always been more of a "phablet" than Samsung's flagship line.

It is, however, surprising that they didn't get it right.

Li-ion batteries are seemingly trickier than we consumers assume. Apple had a bit of bad press with the iPhone 4 when batteries starting exploding as well. I thought the industry would have worked it out since then, but according to many of the other comments in this (and other related) threads, Li-ion batteries are still an area of considerable research.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by throwanem »

lmm wrote: post #41
NicoJuicy wrote: post #17

This is the second article i can't access in a short time. Please consider changing the url to the nytimes article or deleting the article on itselve. I don't think HN should contain links to paywalled sites like wsj.com

Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

Not GP, but I'd appreciate one, if you have it to spare.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by NicoJuicy »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #43
NicoJuicy wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn't help anymore ( or it is because i already surfed to it). But i read that it is not possible anymore on another topic https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12680380#unv_12680507 They "upgraded" their paywall game. Also, the first topic with the most votes is ALWAYS a link to another article with the same information or a TLDR; for those who can't access the paywalled article. Please just ban the wsj domain…

I second the banning of paywalled domains; trying to maintain hacks and workarounds for each and every popular third-party just doesn't seem worth it in the long-run. HN should be for open discussion on content that is freely available to all rather than locked down.

Let's discuss? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by walterbell »

RGamma wrote: post #18
on_and_off wrote: post #5

Damn. That's one major failure. Now I really want a postmortem on the real cause of these fires.

Apparently some rare manufacturing fault that put pressure on internal poles, short-circuiting the battery: https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-explo...

Still unclear why some replacements (which have batteries from a different supplier) are exhibiting a similar failure mode.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by cronjobber »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #29
ljf wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Click on 'web' link below the title above, this will take you to a google search for the story, which generally allows you to read the full story (for SEO purposes)

This doesn't help anymore ( or it is because i already surfed to it). But i read that it is not possible anymore on another topic https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12680380#unv_12680507 They "upgraded" their paywall game. Also, the first topic with the most votes is ALWAYS a link to another article with the same information or a TLDR; for those who can't access the paywalled article. Please just ban the wsj domain…

Yet by not banning WSJ, maybe HN is making people annoyed at WSJ, damaging their brand, driving traffic to competitors, and teaching people to just rely on peer provided TLDRs instead of journalists, all of which might hurt WSJ more than just banning them... I guess we'll never know :)

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by Nursie »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #14

[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they a…

It's obviously not good but yes, you were an idiot to say it could be the end of Samsung.

They make everything from cutting edge phones to air-conditioning. One product in one business area going wrong like this is not going to be fatal.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by krapp »

lmm wrote: post #41
NicoJuicy wrote: post #17

This is the second article i can't access in a short time. Please consider changing the url to the nytimes article or deleting the article on itselve. I don't think HN should contain links to paywalled sites like wsj.com

Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

>I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN.

If you refuse to read the posted article, then you should choose not to participate in threads discussing it, rather than wasting valuable thread-space with off-topic complaints about the site's business model.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by hrrsn »

simonh wrote: post #45
hrrsn wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The replacement/fixed versions are also being recalled. https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-... http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/

That's not what the Verge article says. Verizon is taking back devices that they have sold, as are other carriers, but Samsung has not issued a recall of the replacement Note 7 devices. Offering refunds to customers isn't the same as issuing a formal recall of all devices. They're doing the absolute minimum they can possibly get away with and trying to sweep the 'fixed' replacement Note 7 situation under the carpet.…

Sorry, updated with a better link from Samsung directly.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by lmm »

Intermernet wrote: post #51
cotinoco wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course the Note is a flagship line. And they did everything they could so they could have this phone out to compete with the iPhone 7.

I see the iPhone 7 as a competitor to the Galaxy S7 (quite a nice phone by the way). The Note range has always been more of a "phablet" than Samsung's flagship line. It is, however, surprising that they didn't get it right. Li-ion batteries are seemingly trickier than we consumers assume. Apple had a bit of bad press with the iPhone 4 when batteries starting exploding as well. I thought the industry would have worked…

> The Note range has always been more of a "phablet" than Samsung's flagship line.

It's been the power-user line, the most full-featured variant, often more expensive than the Galaxy proper. "Flagship" is a loose term - they probably marketed the Galaxy proper more heavily, but the Note was their top-of-the-range phone, at least for a certain demographic.

Re: Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone

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Post by lmm »

throwanem wrote: post #52
lmm wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of us agree. Unfortunately per dang policy such links are allowed and we're not even supposed to discuss it in the comments here. I don't know what to suggest other than looking for alternatives to HN. If you would like an invite to lobste.rs I'm happy to send you one.

Not GP, but I'd appreciate one, if you have it to spare.

Sent one to your profile email
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