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Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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The simple solution to anyone concerned about this is to just stop using Facebook. I've done so and it turned out to be a great decision. Contrary to the belief that you'll be "left out," people can and do get in touch with you for the important things. SMS, email, phone, snapchat, etc all work really well today, and you can get your social news fix from reddit, HN, and elsewhere if you need it. I've gotten measurabl…

I couldn't agree with you more. I did the same a year ago and couldn't be happier. To be honest it made me really close with friends that really matters in my life.

Same here. I deleted my account four years ago and haven't missed it one bit. I think people would be surprised at how much they don't need Facebook.

That said, I also don't want to be using it in my workplace and will vehemently resist any attempts at using it in my company.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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We deployed this last month, taking part in the early access program. On the whole it's been of net cultural benefit for our non-profit. Our staff seem more engaged with the overall mission, better informed about what's going on and more likely to share information that they might have been reticent to share over email.

I really like that it's completely separate from my 'personal' Facebook, and it seems with the rebranding from "Facebook at Work" they're trying to emphasize that separation even more.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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Why is this even part of the discussion. This was a long time ago and we have no objective proof that they are in the business of abusing privacy and trust. I'm all for a good discussion of multiple view points but not via something thats baseless. If he had shown signs of having no regard for privacy in recent times then fine. But he's time and time again spoken of privacy. Leaving all that aside, they are audited b…

I think its a perfectly valid part of the discussion. Facebook holds a great deal of power with the kinds of personal data they possess so I don't have a problem whatsoever holding them to the highest standard possible when it comes to private information.

Holding them to the highest standard and having a discussion is fine. Bringing up non applicable points from the past is not ok. The premise being made in that argument was "mark was untrustworthy as a student and therefore he should be treated with suspicion now". That premise is flawed as it has no logical connection to the present. If someone can bring proof that Mark still doesn't care about privacy and is cavalier about it, fine. That point doesn't do that. Therefore, it shouldn't be part of the discussion.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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If you don't trust Facebook, don't use Facebook.

And use Privacy Badger.

uBlock origin and hosts file blockers are much better.

https://github.com/jmdugan/blocklists/blob/master/corporatio...

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I think it's fair to assume that going from a 19-year-old college kid to the CEO of a giant corporation involves maturing quite a bit.

For most people, the thirteen years from age 19 to 32 involves a great deal of maturity and in many respects I imagine the same applies to him. But if he started out as somewhat unscrupulous, what evidence do we have that the pressures of having to appease investors is going to change that in a positive way when it comes to people's private information? Especially considering the kind of revenue that data can generat…

Any evidence of FB going directly against their privacy rules other than silly quotes from a decade or more ago?

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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I agree; Slack includes features to disable notifications outside of working hours. An @here message will trigger a pop up with "sure you want to wake up the people outside of your time zone?" I have been fortunate enough to not be compelled to answer messages outside of working hours, even with 10-hour variance between time zones in a remote team. Can anyone describe a situation where the introduction of Slack chang…

"Changed", no. Reified an existing one by providing additional reinforcement to the expectations of instant access? Certainly.

But that isn't at all Slacks fault, it is your company culture and people.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

I'm not big on holding grudges because a stranger told me to

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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But if that's possible in any way FaceBook and the company paying would be subject to breaking many corporate espionage laws in addition to destroying FaceBook's enterprise business IN ITS ENTIRETY should it be found out. Seems like an insane amount of risk for such a very tiny reward.

Yet, each of the major carriers and RSA did it for the NSA in exchange for $30-(80?) million. Happened at plenty of other companies with or without nation state involvement. The big ones are still in business. Besides, what does the EULA say on the product? Their EULA usually says something along the lines of they can do whatever they want with your data. I'm interested to see if anyone sees something similar in the…

I would be interested to diff the user agreement and business agreements.

Re: Workplace by Facebook opens to sell enterprise social networking to the masses

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https://workplace.fb.com/trust Sure. Also: Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard Zuck: Just ask Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks Just keep remembering that as well, please.

No need to impugn Zuckerberg himself from 2005 when you can talk about the company:

2006: http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?men...

2010: http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/127409/faceboo...

2013: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2047804/facebooks-new-face-re...

2016: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/03/business/international/fac...

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