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Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by bitL »

Grishnakh wrote: post #325
bitL wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You guys should really fix English language. As a non-native speaker whose native language allows properly expressing gender anytime, I find this funny, being downvoted for what is a structural problem of your language :-D

Does your language allow referring to a person while leaving their gender unspecified? If not, your language is deficient. All the mainstream European languages I've seen (Germanic and Romance) don't seem to have this capability at all, and it's a big deficiency. Formal English doesn't have it either, but colloquially we've evolved it, using "they" (which of course is bad because it's supposed to be used for referrin…

It allows both ungendered and gendered approaches. It's really up to you to choose. So in fact my language is better in this regard, worse in others. Like any language.

I would prefer mentalese over Vangelis' direct to be honest ;-)

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by gspetr »

School-Cotton wrote: post #316
st3v3r wrote: post #283

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It kinda is.

Is "Whites" pejorative? Is "Latinos" pejorative? Why is " " more pejorative than " + people" ?

Because we're in that cycle of history now.

It's more pejorative for the same reason that "White Pride" has negative connotations in today's society while "Black Pride", "Asian Pride", "Gay Pride" have positive.

Hate it or love it, it is what it is.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by bitL »

iron0012 wrote: post #217
jimmywanger wrote: post #193

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FTFY, guy and dude are pretty much asexual references for a person you don't know who you had a personal interaction with, at least in California. "Who did you have lunch with? Oh, some dude." Try not to language police here. You're not bringing anything to the discussion.

That's not true in my experience, and I doubt it's true in yours. While "guys" is sometimes employed to refer to a mixed gender group of people, it would be very weird for "guy" or "dude" to be used to refer to a woman. Argue in good faith, please. And try not to police PC here. You're not bringing anything to the discussion.

I got it from both living in California and Miami, where many people used it that way, girls as well. For me it was a bit strange at first, but got used to it. I guess it might be some local urban stuff leaking nationwide?

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by jimmywanger »

iron0012 wrote: post #308
jimmywanger wrote: post #289

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You bring up your experience, basically call me a liar about my experiences and accuse me of not adding anything to the discussion. Interesting. I grew up in California and what I said is a fact, as confirmed by other people. What are you bringing to the discussion exactly besides baseless accusations?

I've lived in California as well, and I maintain that you are full of shit.

I'm pretty sure I've lived here longer than you have, and you're not only showing your rudeness, but the lack of knowledge you have about the Bay Area and environs. Have fun slinking back to your hole.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by gspetr »

ArkyBeagle wrote: post #136
staticelf wrote: post #116

Marissa Meyer seems like a really bad CEO.

She's basically in the spot Fiorina was in - the ship is slowly taking on water for Schumpeterian life cycle reasons.

I'm not sure why you wish to remove agency and assign victimhood here. She knew the job was difficult when she took it.

Speaking of Fiorina, there was a guy who was a CEO of a company taking tons of water too. He turned it around. And then he won the primary in which Fiorina also ran.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by geofft »

School-Cotton wrote: post #318
int_19h wrote: post #304

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Not necessarily. If your candidates are 80% men and 20% women, and your hires are 80% men and 20% women, your process isn't discriminatory. DIscrimination is still happening, but it's somewhere before you in the pipeline. Some would argue that you have an ethical obligation to "reverse discriminate" to mitigate it, but that's much more ambiguous than plain discrimination being bad. On the other hand, if your company…

> DIscrimination is still happening, but it's somewhere before you in the pipeline. Not necessarily. Maybe men are just more likely to be interested in tech, spend time tinkering with computers as young boys, etc.

But this isn't about tech, this is about people reporting to the chief marketing officer Maybe women are more likely to be interested in that, no? Every stereotype of gender roles would favor 80% women there to 80% men there.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by gspetr »

internaut wrote: post #271
coredog64 wrote: post #190

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Was Bendan Eich really a bad CEO, or is he just extremely unpopular for his donation to a political cause?

The decision to oust Eich is the reason why I would never knowingly hire people who practiced social justice activism. There is evidence all over Silicon Valley, including this thread, that they just cannot keep their politics and work separated. Indeed they believe it is their job to mix the two. It would be like hiring a KKK member in HR. Toxic results would be a foregone conclusion. It is the paradox of tolerance…

Speaking of Ycombinator, are you aware of it's CEO's position?

http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/20/technology/sam-altman-trump/...

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by dschuetz »

grawlinson wrote: post #77
dschuetz wrote: post #51

Does anyone here even use Yahoo's products or services? I wonder why Yahoo is still significant and why there are stockholders dumb enough to stay. Yahoo is a sinking ship, imho.

Yes. I used Flickr before Yahoo purchased it, and have watched Yahoo ruin it. I've tried alternatives (Instagram, 500px) but keep coming back to Flickr because I just prefer it to the rest. Over the last couple of months, I have started migrating my photos/contacts to other photo sharing networks in anticipation of the eventual straw that broke the camels back.

So did I. Same goes for Tumblr.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by jimmywanger »

ajamesm wrote: post #297
jimmywanger wrote: post #193

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FTFY, guy and dude are pretty much asexual references for a person you don't know who you had a personal interaction with, at least in California. "Who did you have lunch with? Oh, some dude." Try not to language police here. You're not bringing anything to the discussion.

I agree with the lady who wrote this post.

Way to misinterpret what I said. I said that "dude" and "guy" were asexual, not "lady".

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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Post by st3v3r »

School-Cotton wrote: post #316
st3v3r wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It kinda is.

Is "Whites" pejorative? Is "Latinos" pejorative? Why is " " more pejorative than " + people" ?

I'm sorry, but only someone with absolutely no appreciation of historical context would ask such a silly question.
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