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Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #113

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Practices like firing all your men and replacing them with women will ruin your business "the same way" that being sexist will? Perhaps we need to examine the popular conception of what constitutes "sexism". This is right up there with the idea "more blacks = more diverse".

More black people .

Give it a rest. Trumpeting your PC nonsense won't help you.

You understood what he meant. Communication successful, despite your protest!

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #78

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So you judge mere on the fact that some lawsuit was filed? Without hearing, without proofs presented, without looking into other party's version? Perhaps this is exactly what someone is expecting from you now.

You're right, the 80 percent female just matched the gender ratio of the broader industry. /s

1. Just as much as the 20 percent male did. This is middle management, and the ratio is roughly 50%.

2. How is the gender ratio of the broader industry relevant here? If everyone discriminates, is it okay to discriminate? Maybe these women were just better at their jobs than the male candidates.

Anecdotally, the average woman I've worked with is far more competent than the average man I've worked with. Are you willing to deny fundamental but politically-incorrect gender differences in your social justice crusade?

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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I'm deeply offended by this and personally I will cease to use Yahoo Mail. I urge any self-respecting males to stop using any of Yahoo services as a form of protest for this despicable act of discrimination. And I'm serious; too much is too much.

So you judge mere on the fact that some lawsuit was filed? Without hearing, without proofs presented, without looking into other party's version? Perhaps this is exactly what someone is expecting from you now.

When you have an hard fact like: In one year the administration when from 20% female to 80% female.

You can come up with all the legal mumbo jumbo you want and with your handsomely paid lawyers you can even win the lawsuit, but it's obvious they where guilty of sexual discrimination, you don't need a court ruling to understand that.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

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post #34

I was once a fan of Mayer when she first took over Yahoo, until she led a crusade against remote workers. As a remote worker myself I can tell you this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry. A lot of tech companies (especially outside the bay area) want to emulate the cool kids like Yahoo, Google, and Apple, and even the company I work for started questioning its WFH policies. So no, I don't feel sorry for her…

>this crusade sent ripples throughout the industry Were there any other companies that followed yahoo's lead?

Yes, like I stated above Best Buy announced a similar plan a couple weeks later. I will mention though that companies like Dell and Microsoft later openly stated they were expanding their WFH policies so the anti-remote working trend was short lived.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

#145

Marissa Meyer seems like a really bad CEO.

She's basically in the spot Fiorina was in - the ship is slowly taking on water for Schumpeterian life cycle reasons.

She sure put some holes in it too.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

#146
post #91

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Implicit bias is a real phenomenon backed up by good studies: http://www.vox.com/2014/12/26/7443979/racism-implicit-racial... Whether or not reverse discrimination was taking place at Yahoo, it is worthwhile to try to reduce the implicit bias we practice in our own lives.

Implicit bias tests could end up becoming another big embarrassment for psychology. Worth reading this tweet storm [0] for the little amount of conflicting [1] literature that is available. I wouldn't treat a Vox article as evidence that something is true. [0] https://twitter.com/Billare/status/783482251761815552 [1] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfz6CgVWQAELrwZ.jpg:large

> I wouldn't treat a Vox article as evidence that something is true.

> Worth reading this tweet storm...

LOL.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

#147
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implicit bias tests could end up becoming another big embarrassment for psychology. Worth reading this tweet storm [0] for the little amount of conflicting [1] literature that is available. I wouldn't treat a Vox article as evidence that something is true. [0] https://twitter.com/Billare/status/783482251761815552 [1] https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfz6CgVWQAELrwZ.jpg:large

> I wouldn't treat a Vox article as evidence that something is true. > Worth reading this tweet storm... LOL.

Nice snark. But, the point isn't to trust a Twitter account, the point is to read the actual scientific literature that they linked to...

As others have pointed out already [0] IAT hasn't faired well in the replication crisis.

Of course this doesn't necessarily mean that 'implicit bias' doesn't exist in any form. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I'm just pointing out that saying "a real phenomenon backed up by good studies" in light of recent studies is kind of a stretch.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12659715

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

#148
post #83

Does anyone here even use Yahoo's products or services? I wonder why Yahoo is still significant and why there are stockholders dumb enough to stay. Yahoo is a sinking ship, imho.

Yahoo services (like the core branded stuff, not Flickr etc.) are still really popular here in Japan. News/entertainment content, and yahoo shopping all seem to be well-liked. I don't know any numbers but I wouldn't be surprised if it leads gmail as an email provider.

Yahoo Japan is a separate entity.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

#149
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Implicit bias is a real phenomenon backed up by good studies: http://www.vox.com/2014/12/26/7443979/racism-implicit-racial... Whether or not reverse discrimination was taking place at Yahoo, it is worthwhile to try to reduce the implicit bias we practice in our own lives.

It's not reverse discrimination; it's just discrimination.

So much this.

There isn't a thing as 'reverse discrimination'. Discrimination is discrimination, regardless of who is doing it.

Re: Lawsuit: Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer led illegal purge of male workers

#150
post #29

Wow, so many different news about the same tech company within a month and now this one too. They could not have pulled a better stunt to compete with what Apple and Google is doing in their keynote. http://gizmodo.com/7-of-yahoos-biggest-fuck-ups-1745729341 http://gizmodo.com/how-yahoo-totally-blew-it-on-security-178... http://gizmodo.com/heres-what-happened-to-all-of-marissa-may... http://gizmodo.com/yahoo-secretly…

You have to wonder if there is some sort of campaign to smear yahoo? The timing does seem strange, but perhaps it's simply because they are under so much scrutiny because of the eventual sale?
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