Backpage Raided, CEO Arrested on Sex-Trafficking Charges

Post by empthought » Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 6:12 AM UTC

barrkel wrote: post #78

empthought wrote: post #75

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If it was their free choice, they wouldn't need to be paid for it, and they could be as selective or as indiscriminate as they like with partner selection and frequency. It's not about anything sacred (unless you consider basic human rights sacred, I guess). But don't take my word for it, take former sex workers' word for it: http://www.educating-voices.com This is feminism 101 stuff; even if you want to take the "ch…

Your argument hinges on the idea that exchange is inherently coercive. I don't buy it.

Post by Rapzid » Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 6:15 AM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #3

Is the distinction between this page and the kind of things posted on craigslist, strictly that the posters had to pay to list their ads? Or do prostitutes not post on craigslist? AFAIK Newmark hasn't had to deal with any of this. I'd be interested to know if there is something similar and legal in countries that allow prostitution (Netherlands?). Seems like they were making a lot of revenue for what is basically ill…

Post by barrkel » Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 6:21 AM UTC

empthought wrote: post #81

barrkel wrote: post #78

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Your argument hinges on the idea that exchange is inherently coercive. I don't buy it.

No, my argument hinges on the idea that exchanges of money for sex are inherently coercive -- or at least almost always coercive in practice -- because they are. Other exchanges are not relevant.

Post by empthought » Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 6:29 AM UTC

barrkel wrote: post #85

empthought wrote: post #81

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No, my argument hinges on the idea that exchanges of money for sex are inherently coercive -- or at least almost always coercive in practice -- because they are. Other exchanges are not relevant.

To remind you, this is what you said: "If it was their free choice, they wouldn't need to be paid for it". This means that monetary exchange precludes free choice. This is independent of what is being exchanged, as you say it.

Post by ZoF » Fri, Oct 07, 2016, 6:36 AM UTC

stephenr wrote: post #40

Pyxl101 wrote: post #35

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"Run-of-the-mill" in that sentence modifies "prostitution". When I read that person's sentence I think, "So, what kind of prostitution charge is average or not special? That kind." That's what they think, anyway. Whether this is true or false could be validated by seeing what kind of prostitution cases are commonly brought vs uncommonly brought.

> So, what kind of prostitution charge is average or not special? That kind. I don't even want to know how you consider a child prostitution charge "average or not special".