Why the heck would the article end with the information that the owner has replaced it with iPhone 7. When did the verge start"native" advertising?
How is that native advertising? It's relevant to the story.
How is that relevant to the story?
Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
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Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#132Does anyone else think like me this might be a one time failure that is caused by the replacement phone being dropped or mishandled? Or, perhaps, a setup by the competition? Unless I see statistical evidence that replacement Note 7 is catching on fire (random, different circumstances), then I do not see a reason to believe Note 7 replacement is b0rked. Unfortunately, most people do not reason like that. Samsung's rep…
It's far more likely that in building one of the most sophisticated devices mankind has attempted, they fucked up a bit.
It is an insanely hard engineering challenge. I have no problem believing that a malfunction rate in the 0.00000001% region is possible.
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not that easy to buy Samsung stock outside of South Korea.
SSNLF?
Not that easy unless you are a bit more into stock trading than the average retail investor, or willing to lump SSNLF in with a bunch of other South Korean companies in an index fund.
http://www.nasdaq.com/article/why-and-how-to-invest-in-samsu...
> The shares of Samsung don’t trade on major exchanges like Nasdaq and NYSE in the U.S. It is listed on the Korean exchange and available as GDR in London and Luxembourg. However, in accordance with Rule 144A of the U.S. Securities Exchange Act, U.S. citizens are prohibited from investing in GDR’s. The following options are available to U.S. investors:
> 1. Investors can either buy shares directly in the Korean stock market after proper paper work or through a local securities firm or bank (Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Inc. are eligible)
> 2. Investors can buy Samsung’s shares traded over-the-counter in the U.S.
> 3. Investors can opt to take exposure to Samsung along with other Korean companies by investing in a South Korea ETF, for example, the iShares MSCI South Korea Capped ETF (EWY) has a heavy exposure of 20.64% towards Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
I flew Emirates last week, and the preflight announcement about electronic devices said use of all devices was ok, except Galaxy Note 7 which need to stay turned off during the whole flight. I can't imagine much worse PR, when yoir products are routinely called out by neutral third parties for being an actual hazard source.
And this thing was supposedly off when it started smoking: "Green said that he had powered down the phone as requested by the flight crew and put it in his pocket when it began smoking." What's the remedy here? All Galaxy Notes in the airtight metal box until we land?
First I'm surprised Al Queda doesn't use a special OS or a virus to make phones explode on a plane. Second, it could be competitors who specifically target the Note 7 with a 0-day attack to harm Samsung's reputation.
All phones with a battery are a fire hazard if they get the wrong OS.
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#135Samsung really needs to cut bait here, accept and admit fully that they made a major engineering mistake, come clean, and forcibly recall ALL the devices, before there is a major disaster. The time for serious, adult action was several weeks ago. From here on out, they deserve what they get.
Samsung has issued a forcible recall for all the devices. This was not one of the recalled device, it's a new model without the original flaw. This must have been something different. Which begs the question - given the hundreds of millions of smartphones with out there - how many, even without a manufacturing flaw, end up smoking/catching fire? 1 in a million? 1 in 10 million?
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Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#136What percentage of Galaxy Note 7 owners know they have a Galaxy Note 7? I imagine some break down is: I have an Android phone. I have a Samsung phone. I have a Samsung Galaxy. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note. But Samsung Galaxy Note 7, specifically? I'm guessing at best 50% might know that.
When I went to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, the shop gave me a Galaxy Note 3 at the price of the S4. Interestingly enough, they did scan the Note 3 box in their register. I noticed the outside saying 'Note 3', but assumed it was some kind of advertising. I only checked the front of the phone in the box.
I called ahead to have them reserve the S4, they actually double checked the price, scanned it, etc. As I was wondering whether to buy a Note 3 or an S4 I concluded shop/fate decided for me with a nice discount ;)
I came from a much smaller phone so size wise I didn't notice. Only when unboxing and seeing the stylus.
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#137Why the heck would the article end with the information that the owner has replaced it with iPhone 7. When did the verge start"native" advertising?
How is that native advertising? It's relevant to the story.
It's about as relevant as saying he calmed his nerves from the whole ordeal with an ice cold coca cola.
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#138I got a flight across Greece a week or so back. It's the first time a named device was singled out as "do not turn on, do not attempt to charge, please identify yourself to cabin staff"-type stuff since the 1990s when there was a bunch of - I think, Gateway - laptops that were known to catch fire, and they were regularly not allowed on flights. The fact this is a replacement means the product has a major engineering…
> This could be the end of Samsung.
This really could not. Samsung is a gigantic conglomerate. They make everything from power plants to super tankers and weapon systems. They could lose their phone business entirely and still be huge.
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#139Does anyone else think like me this might be a one time failure that is caused by the replacement phone being dropped or mishandled? Or, perhaps, a setup by the competition? Unless I see statistical evidence that replacement Note 7 is catching on fire (random, different circumstances), then I do not see a reason to believe Note 7 replacement is b0rked. Unfortunately, most people do not reason like that. Samsung's rep…
Most people don't reason like that because there is no acceptable reason for a phone to catch fire from "mishandling" or "dropping". This was even after they thought they fixed the issue, so of course it looks very bad. Not only did they build a dangerous consumer device, it seems they did not actually fix it the second time around.
> there is no acceptable reason for a phone to catch fire from "mishandling" or "dropping".
maybe there is no acceptable reason but it happens A LOT:
Re: Replacement Samsung Galaxy Note 7 phone catches fire on Southwest plane
#140What happens if someone decides to check it in their luggage and it catches fire there. Are there measures to deal with fires in the cargo hold?
There are some countermeasures but they can't handle a large fire see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asiana_Airlines_Flight_991
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_6
for recent examples