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MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by wil421 »

jameskegel wrote: post #116
wil421 wrote: post #82

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California is also one of the states being sued [0]. You obviously don't know much about Atlanta but seem to know a lot about Georgia by browsing wkikipedia. Our LGBT community is one of the largest in the US. California probably has more backwards people than Georgia fighting against stuff like this. [0] http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/26/california-tra...

Your response comes off aggressive, and I think that detracts from the validity of your comment.

If you want to see aggressive comments check out Reddit or YouTube.

It was not my intention. The parent did a quick Wikipedia search and came to the conclusion all of Georgia hates LGBT, better not move there. It's offensive to me as a native.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by defen »

michaelcampbell wrote: post #152
SwellJoe wrote: post #117

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As a counterpoint: My family is in Atlanta (well, just outside of it), and it's probably my least favorite major American city. The traffic is out of control (and has possibly the rudest drivers in the whole country), McMansions and suburban sprawl are a way of life (my brother-in-law has an hour long commute to his near-downtown office, and keeps an office in his house so he doesn't have to drive down every day), an…

> and has possibly the rudest drivers in the whole country) There are 2 truths I've found, having lived outside Chicago, Manhattan, Atlanta (in 3 different areas), Orlando, Tampa, and Los Angeles: 1. Wherever you are, people think the drivers there are worse than other places. 2. Wherever you are, people think the weather changes more frequently there than other places. I have NEVER lived, and rarely visited places (…

> I'm wondering if you've ever been to south Jersey or Boston, if you think Atlanta drivers are rude.

I spent the first 24 years of my life in south Jersey and never perceived the drivers as particularly rude, especially compared to Boston ... can I ask where specifically?

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by SnacksOnAPlane »

SwellJoe wrote: post #169
ledbettj wrote: post #124

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I used to feel the same way you do; I grew up here, moved away, and eventually came back. Atlanta is a much different place now. I wouldn't choose to live "just outside" of Atlanta either, for all the terrible traffic/commute reasons you mentioned -- I live ITP and a 5 minute walk from a train station with a 10-minute hassle-free commute. Somehow I can survive here as part of a one-car household. Also please don't pa…

"Also please don't paint an entire city (let alone one with Atlanta's demographics) as full of "casual racism." C'mon." It's the only major city I've been to where a white person dropping the word "nigger" (and used in a clearly negative way) not only happens in conversation, but it doesn't elicit gasps or any negative response. To be fair, it's also among the more diverse major cities, with tons of black-owned busin…

I would say that, at least in my neighborhood (Midtown), someone saying that would be absolutely shunned. I can't speak for all neighborhoods, but I've lived here for about 30 years and I have never ever heard someone say that in casual conversation.

Yeah, we've got problems, but I would actually point you to our BLM protests as an example of our racial tolerance. They were almost completely nonviolent, well-organized, and incredibly diverse. Atlanta has a "we're all in this together" kind of spirit, at least in my experience. Casual racism is, for the most part, not tolerated.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by wil421 »

SwellJoe wrote: post #169
ledbettj wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to feel the same way you do; I grew up here, moved away, and eventually came back. Atlanta is a much different place now. I wouldn't choose to live "just outside" of Atlanta either, for all the terrible traffic/commute reasons you mentioned -- I live ITP and a 5 minute walk from a train station with a 10-minute hassle-free commute. Somehow I can survive here as part of a one-car household. Also please don't pa…

"Also please don't paint an entire city (let alone one with Atlanta's demographics) as full of "casual racism." C'mon." It's the only major city I've been to where a white person dropping the word "nigger" (and used in a clearly negative way) not only happens in conversation, but it doesn't elicit gasps or any negative response. To be fair, it's also among the more diverse major cities, with tons of black-owned busin…

That's such BS. I've lived here most of my life and never had some random person use N* in a conversation. Innuendoes maybe, even then it's usually some grumpy old person and they are flat out ignored.

Look at St. Louis and Baltimore. Much more brutality on both sides and riots. Atlanta isn't the old Atlanta and we don't tolerate that crap.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by chucksmash »

SwellJoe wrote: post #169
ledbettj wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to feel the same way you do; I grew up here, moved away, and eventually came back. Atlanta is a much different place now. I wouldn't choose to live "just outside" of Atlanta either, for all the terrible traffic/commute reasons you mentioned -- I live ITP and a 5 minute walk from a train station with a 10-minute hassle-free commute. Somehow I can survive here as part of a one-car household. Also please don't pa…

"Also please don't paint an entire city (let alone one with Atlanta's demographics) as full of "casual racism." C'mon." It's the only major city I've been to where a white person dropping the word "nigger" (and used in a clearly negative way) not only happens in conversation, but it doesn't elicit gasps or any negative response. To be fair, it's also among the more diverse major cities, with tons of black-owned busin…

> It's the only major city I've been to where a white person dropping the word "nigger" (and used in a clearly negative way) in conversation doesn't elicit gasps.

Maybe you should find new friends.

I was born in ATL and lived there the first 20 years of my life and then for 18 months after college. I can say unequivocally that I've never been in a situation where it would have been acceptable or "just felt normal" to encounter that.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by [deleted] »

piptastic wrote: post #145
SwellJoe wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a counterpoint: My family is in Atlanta (well, just outside of it), and it's probably my least favorite major American city. The traffic is out of control (and has possibly the rudest drivers in the whole country), McMansions and suburban sprawl are a way of life (my brother-in-law has an hour long commute to his near-downtown office, and keeps an office in his house so he doesn't have to drive down every day), an…

Agreed. I have to fly into Atlanta from the West Coast 3-4 times a year and it is also my least favorite major American city. There are nice places there (Top Golf, Bourbon Bar, tons of good restaurants)... But there are nice places everywhere and they certainly don't make up for Atlanta's other shortcomings. I can't articulate all the reasons for my distaste, but it just looks dirty and depressing. The traffic is ho…

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Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by replicatorblog »

jasode wrote: post #96
maneesh wrote: post #58

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How is the position of WhatsApp significantly different than that of Snapchat? WhatsApp didn't need outside funding to grow huge...

WhatsApp raised "outside funding" of $250k from ex-Yahoo employees before publicly launching the app in November 2009. They then got another $8 million in April 2011 from VC firm Sequoia Capital. However, Jan Koum was already talking to Jim Goetz of Sequoia a year prior to that (Spring 2010) and it took several months of negotiation to close the deal. I don't think people would call Whatsapp a "bootstrapped company".…

One of the important things about Whatsapp is that they raised only $60M. Comapare that to the the median $285M that the average active unicorn raised. I think it's less a story of billion dollar rounds vs. bootstrapping, and more a case for being efficient with capital.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by ccostes »

SwellJoe wrote: post #169
ledbettj wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to feel the same way you do; I grew up here, moved away, and eventually came back. Atlanta is a much different place now. I wouldn't choose to live "just outside" of Atlanta either, for all the terrible traffic/commute reasons you mentioned -- I live ITP and a 5 minute walk from a train station with a 10-minute hassle-free commute. Somehow I can survive here as part of a one-car household. Also please don't pa…

"Also please don't paint an entire city (let alone one with Atlanta's demographics) as full of "casual racism." C'mon." It's the only major city I've been to where a white person dropping the word "nigger" (and used in a clearly negative way) not only happens in conversation, but it doesn't elicit gasps or any negative response. To be fair, it's also among the more diverse major cities, with tons of black-owned busin…

> It's the only major city I've been to where a white person dropping the word "nigger" (and used in a clearly negative way) not only happens in conversation, but it doesn't elicit gasps or any negative response.

As a counterexample, I have lived in Atlanta for the past 7 years and never once heard anything like this. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it feels like you're painting the city with an overly broad brush.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by jboggan »

echelon wrote: post #37

The Atlanta tech scene is blossoming, just like our film industry. We have a couple of incubators, including a few that are funded/supported by Georgia Tech. The cost of living here is super cheap, and there are brilliant and talented people everywhere. We have satellite offices for tons of major tech companies, so there are traditional tech jobs too. Earning $200k here while the cost of living is so low is phenomina…

Speaking as a native Atlantan who moved to California 4 years for a job in the tech industry: I don't miss it and I wouldn't want to move back, even to leverage a better cost of living. I miss the weather, the environment, the people, the food - but I certainly don't miss the crime. Everyone I knew had some kind of violent crime encounter after living in Atlanta and it wasn't until I moved to the amazing calm of San Francisco / Santa Monica / West L.A. that I realized there are some cities where it isn't a constant companion.

"Murder Kroger" has that nickname for a reason, and the fact that so many Atlantans are used to it is quite telling.

Re: MailChimp’s founders built the company slowly by anticipating customers’ needs

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Post by pjlegato »

chatmasta wrote: post #97
hehheh wrote: post #61

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How's the political climate? It doesn't look so great from my initial Googling: Georgia is one of the states suing over the transgender bathroom issue. Per Wikipedia Georgia doesn't include sexual orientation in their laws against employer discrimination. Anything else folks from SF might be concerned about?

You mean is it a giant bubble where everyone shares the same liberal views, reinforces each other, and ostracizes any dissenting opinions?

Moreover, ostracizes any dissenting opinions while simultaneously loudly trumpeting the value of tolerance for diversity.
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