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Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

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aleeds wrote: post #16
aub3bhat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly this comment reads like an emotional outburst, by someone who has zero clue about the domain. Its very well known fact in AI/ML community, that Apple has almost little or no talent nor do they have any major efforts at organizational level (E.g. FAIR at FB, MSR, Brain & Deep Mind at Google). >> But in Machine Translation, Apple is ahead. LOL where did you get this from? I am pretty sure that Google NTM which…

"But in Machine Translation, Apple is ahead." was an example of a statement that could be made if metrics existed, he is not asserting that that is true.

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Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

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[deleted] wrote: post #20
aub3bhat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly this comment reads like an emotional outburst, by someone who has zero clue about the domain. Its very well known fact in AI/ML community, that Apple has almost little or no talent nor do they have any major efforts at organizational level (E.g. FAIR at FB, MSR, Brain & Deep Mind at Google). >> But in Machine Translation, Apple is ahead. LOL where did you get this from? I am pretty sure that Google NTM which…

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Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

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Post by modeless »

phodo wrote: post #5

At the risk of ad hominem, this is typical techcrunch reporting: >> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group." How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? Are they privy to the Apple ML roadmap? Are they using…

> How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind?

TC is not alone in saying this. It's a very common sentiment in the machine learning community. So much so that Apple recently did a big PR piece in Backchannel just to try to refute it. https://backchannel.com/an-exclusive-look-at-how-ai-and-mach...

> there were more or less objective (err, almost objective) benchmarks [...] This is not the case with ML/DL.

You are completely wrong about this. Microsoft, Facebook, and Google have all participated in public, objective ML competitions such as ILSVRC. They also all publish academic papers with results on standard ML benchmarks, and often running code as well. They even publish their own benchmark datasets such as the widely used MS-COCO or today's YouTube-8M. Apple does none of this, and that's where the perception that they are behind comes from.

Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

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Post by konspence »

Ros2 wrote: post #17
phodo wrote: post #5

At the risk of ad hominem, this is typical techcrunch reporting: >> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group." How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? Are they privy to the Apple ML roadmap? Are they using…

Apple can't figure out that I don't want to say 'ducking' after hundreds of times of dismissing it with their keyboard. Siri never delivered on what was promised--part of the reason the microphone in the new wireless earbuds is so laughable. Apple currently has no answer to Allo or chat bots in general. >For example, see the article floating a few weeks ago on Medium (I think) on how Apple was embedding ML in everyth…

They recently acquired an AI/ML startup called Turi - I think they see the need to remain competitive.

http://www.geekwire.com/2016/exclusive-apple-acquires-turi-m...

Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

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Post by apsec112 »

jacques_chester wrote: post #18
apsec112 wrote: post #4

Are LeCun, Corrado, etc. actually running this? They're pretty busy, and the website doesn't sound like them: "We believe that by taking a multi-party stakeholder approach to identifying and addressing challenges and opportunities in an open and inclusive manner, we can have the greatest benefit and positive impact for the users of AI technologies. While the Partnership on AI was founded by five major IT companies, t…

> This sounds like it was written by some PR person. It probably was. The article is pretty clearly a press release with some touch-up. This happens a lot when the pressure is to be first to publish. Someone gives you a completely-written "story" and off you go.

That quote wasn't from the article, it was from the org website (http://www.partnershiponai.org/faq/).

Re: Facebook, Amazon, Google, IBM and Microsoft Create Partnership on AI

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Post by huac »

modeless wrote: post #23
phodo wrote: post #5

At the risk of ad hominem, this is typical techcrunch reporting: >> "Though Apple is said to be enthusiastic about the project, their absence is still notable because the company has fallen behind in artificial intelligence when compared to its rivals — many of whom are part of this new group." How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? Are they privy to the Apple ML roadmap? Are they using…

> How exactly is it that TC knows that Apple has indeed fallen behind? TC is not alone in saying this. It's a very common sentiment in the machine learning community. So much so that Apple recently did a big PR piece in Backchannel just to try to refute it. https://backchannel.com/an-exclusive-look-at-how-ai-and-mach... > there were more or less objective (err, almost objective) benchmarks [...] This is not the case…

Maybe if TechCrunch speaks ill of Apple they will offer them a similar PR exclusive as a mea culpa
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