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Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by rhinoceraptor » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:22 PM UTC

tolmasky wrote: post #78

rotwoof wrote: post #62

I've been doing Keto since Feb 25 2016. My primary goal when switching over was weight loss, which turned out to be easy. I'm 25, male and was experiencing growing health complications related to obesity. I've lost well over 60 lbs since making the switch despite the fact that I maintain a primarily sedentary lifestyle though I now work out weekly as well as take bi-daily walks. There are downsides though. It's not c…

Is something like Ensure allowed on keto? Its awfully convenient mid day.

You want to maintain a healthy amount of fat, usually 50-70% of calories from fat. If you eat too much protein, it is converted to glucose and you won't reach higher levels of ketosis.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by VLM » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:22 PM UTC

kirykl wrote: post #3

artellectual wrote: post #2

Actually, I've tried the ketogenic diet. It's great, however it does have negative side effects. That is the lack of fiber. This can lead to hemorrhoids. Which can be extremely painful. Everything was great, I burned a lot of baby fat, but it was painful in the toilet, there was bleeding involved. You need to supplement yourself with fiber if you want to try the ketogenic diet.

Also important is to supplement with potassium or magnesium citrate. The ketosis diet will push down urine PH, which can cause uric acid kidney stones

Magnesium does double duty helping with leg cramps.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by VLM » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:28 PM UTC

vixen99 wrote: post #9

artellectual wrote: post #2

Actually, I've tried the ketogenic diet. It's great, however it does have negative side effects. That is the lack of fiber. This can lead to hemorrhoids. Which can be extremely painful. Everything was great, I burned a lot of baby fat, but it was painful in the toilet, there was bleeding involved. You need to supplement yourself with fiber if you want to try the ketogenic diet.

There are many options for avoiding your problem. Vegetable fiber using vegetables with minimal or zero reserve carbohydrate should do it. Cabbage for instance also offers additional benefits from its phytochemicals. See for instance http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0304423806...

Consider stir fries containing broccoli and cabbage. Its a good strategy.

Just stay away from traditional corn syrup sauces.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by spdionis » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:28 PM UTC

rhinoceraptor wrote: post #35

nefitty wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard some people also suffer from ammonia breath from ketosis. Maybe you have experienced that?

It's acetone breath, it is a temporary side effect of keto-adaptation. Other ones include excessive thirst, light headedness and headaches. Most people never heavily use ketones, so it takes the body some time to re-build the machinery to do so.

I confirm I did have all of the above. Possibly the light-headedness was also cause by not having eaten enough, but it was too strong for that to be the only factor.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by epalmer » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:34 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #55

jlturner wrote: post #11

I'm on my third ketogenic diet stint, and I can attest to how fantastic it is. I'm narcoleptic and I experience nearly no symptoms on the diet, my fiancée is epileptic and is transitioning off her meds to the ketogenic diet (with the supervision of her nutritionist and neurologist), and a former employee uses it to keep her benign tumor from spreading (actually! And she's totally normal, again with doctors). All of u…

I started 3 weeks ago, and have been losing weight steadily (10 pounds in 3 weeks), have no real appetite (can go for half a day without eating something, but force myself not too), and am more alert during the day at work, without the "sleepy" low period in the afternoon anymore. I eat mostly what's allowed on "Atkins 2.0, stage 1", plus some small stuff that's not like watermelon). Scientifically the calorie intake…

I've been on this diet for a little more than a year. I lost 35 lbs but have an appetite. I would love to lose 35 more.

My doctor says all evidence of pre-diabetes is gone. I used to get ear infections or bronchitis a few times a year. None since starting. She (my Dr.) says that is likely from the fact that keto dieters have less internal inflammation, though we have not measured that.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by SiddarthaBuddha » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:34 PM UTC

tolmasky wrote: post #78

rotwoof wrote: post #62

I've been doing Keto since Feb 25 2016. My primary goal when switching over was weight loss, which turned out to be easy. I'm 25, male and was experiencing growing health complications related to obesity. I've lost well over 60 lbs since making the switch despite the fact that I maintain a primarily sedentary lifestyle though I now work out weekly as well as take bi-daily walks. There are downsides though. It's not c…

Is something like Ensure allowed on keto? Its awfully convenient mid day.

Check out Keto Chow. https://www.thebairs.net/

I have no affiliation with them and don't drink it often but I can tell you that it tastes awesome.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by epalmer » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:34 PM UTC

misiti3780 wrote: post #67

jlturner wrote: post #11

I'm on my third ketogenic diet stint, and I can attest to how fantastic it is. I'm narcoleptic and I experience nearly no symptoms on the diet, my fiancée is epileptic and is transitioning off her meds to the ketogenic diet (with the supervision of her nutritionist and neurologist), and a former employee uses it to keep her benign tumor from spreading (actually! And she's totally normal, again with doctors). All of u…

no alcohol either ... that is a deal breaker for a lot of people (including myself)

You can have some wine.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by hourislate » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:35 PM UTC

jlturner wrote: post #11

I'm on my third ketogenic diet stint, and I can attest to how fantastic it is. I'm narcoleptic and I experience nearly no symptoms on the diet, my fiancée is epileptic and is transitioning off her meds to the ketogenic diet (with the supervision of her nutritionist and neurologist), and a former employee uses it to keep her benign tumor from spreading (actually! And she's totally normal, again with doctors). All of u…

When I use to live in Toronto there was this German Bread Factory in Etobicoke. I was able to eat various breads they made and stay in Ketosis. I didn't eat a lot but a slice here and there.

http://www.dimpflmeierbakery.com/product/10-pack-carb-smart-...

A great bakery with so many different varieties of breads. Most of it still warm when you buy it.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by nkw » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:35 PM UTC

tolmasky wrote: post #78

rotwoof wrote: post #62

I've been doing Keto since Feb 25 2016. My primary goal when switching over was weight loss, which turned out to be easy. I'm 25, male and was experiencing growing health complications related to obesity. I've lost well over 60 lbs since making the switch despite the fact that I maintain a primarily sedentary lifestyle though I now work out weekly as well as take bi-daily walks. There are downsides though. It's not c…

Is something like Ensure allowed on keto? Its awfully convenient mid day.

> Is something like Ensure allowed on keto? Its awfully convenient mid day.

A regular Ensure looks to have around 15g of sugars per serving, so it would not be conducive to a keto-type diet. For similar convenience there is a product called Ketochow - https://www.thebairs.net/ which I've found quite tasty.

Re: Fat-fueled brain: unnatural or advantageous?

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Post by metamet » Wed, Sep 28, 2016, 4:35 PM UTC

jlturner wrote: post #11

I'm on my third ketogenic diet stint, and I can attest to how fantastic it is. I'm narcoleptic and I experience nearly no symptoms on the diet, my fiancée is epileptic and is transitioning off her meds to the ketogenic diet (with the supervision of her nutritionist and neurologist), and a former employee uses it to keep her benign tumor from spreading (actually! And she's totally normal, again with doctors). All of u…

Have you ever tried Cloud Bread? While certainly not the same, it's a convenient replacement for bread if you want to make sandwiches or so.

For reference, a general recipe (without any sweetener, but use stevia or something if you want):

  - 3 eggs
  - 3 Tablespoons cream cheese
  - ¼ teaspoon cream of tartar

Takes around 20 min to bake. Makes six slices. As you can tell, it's low carb.

But I get the social thing. I have been moderate carb (50-150g/day) and gluten free for around 7 years now. Things have certainly gotten easier with the social aspect, but so many things are breaded.