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Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by dang »

astazangasta wrote: post #3

The phallic imagery is so overpowering. I also like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtBy_ppG4hY In case it's not clear, I hate this "multiplanetary species" garbage.

> I hate this "multiplanetary species" garbage.

It's one thing to offer a contrary view, but please don't fulminate. The more contrary a view is, i.e. the more it contradicts the audience's beliefs, the more important it is to present substantively. Otherwise (assuming you're correct) you do a disservice to the truth, in addition to igniting the obvious flamewar and making this site worse.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12591757 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by Florin_Andrei »

massel wrote: post #12
lucb1e wrote: post #4

"Livestream starting soon". Does anyone know what time they're starting? (And please use a numeric timezone, I'm not a walking timezone database.)

I've never watched an Elon Musk livestream that started on time. Not sure if I'm spoiled by Apple keynotes always starting on time, or if live stream start times at SpaceX are just as loose as the company's other timelines

I would guess he's pretty busy actually running his companies, hence the delays for the PR events.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

tcoppi wrote: post #60
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about going to a different planet makes you think we won't just be taking those same problems with us? The earth isn't the problem - The problem is the human brain. We aren't genetically capable of processing the world we have built. Expect there to be Trump IV vs Clinton IV 2117 hosted live on Mars if we haven't made significant improvements in human engineering.

Throughout human history, there has always been a new/unexplored land to emigrate to for new opportunities or to escape political persecution. Nowdays there is nowhere left for someone in the West to emigrate to that is not substantially the same or worse. Mars and the stars could potentially offer that opportunity, which might be why some people are excited.

Why not the oceans? Much easier to populate than Mars.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by kamaal »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #29
davidw wrote: post #6

This is so pleasant to see after being bombarded with US presidential politics. Science, hope and progress!

What about going to a different planet makes you think we won't just be taking those same problems with us? The earth isn't the problem - The problem is the human brain. We aren't genetically capable of processing the world we have built. Expect there to be Trump IV vs Clinton IV 2117 hosted live on Mars if we haven't made significant improvements in human engineering.

>>The earth isn't the problem

It is. If you are yet not convinced, you might want to take a look at how many species go extinct every day.

There are a many threats to human existence beyond human behavior and preparing for them is a good move forward.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #73
tcoppi wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Throughout human history, there has always been a new/unexplored land to emigrate to for new opportunities or to escape political persecution. Nowdays there is nowhere left for someone in the West to emigrate to that is not substantially the same or worse. Mars and the stars could potentially offer that opportunity, which might be why some people are excited.

Why not the oceans? Much easier to populate than Mars.

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Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by djsumdog »

bsdetector wrote: post #47

We won't really be an interplanetary species until we can get back from Mars. Imagine being colonists on Mars without the ability to be totally self-sustaining without technology and supplies from Earth and nuclear war breaks out. It's going to be a long time before any Mars colony can survive on its own.

The first colonists will most likely not come back. Make no mistake, people are going to die in the first several runs. This will be one of the most dangerous endeavors mankind can attempt.

As far as war breaking out, we're not going to make it to Mars in our current state. I don't think Mars is viable until we enter a post scarcity world. I find it unlikely we can even attempt it if we're still in a money based economy.

I highly recommend The Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson. It's one of the most believable and well thought out sci-fi novel about what populating Mars would be like conceptually.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by dang »

madamelic wrote: post #63
astazangasta wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wrote a long essay about this that I have yet to publish, but my basic point is this: 1. Mars is a fucking desert. There is no air, water or life. 2. Venus is covered in CO2 clouds and sulfuric acid rain. Metal melts on its surface. We are not going to live in space. To even WANT to live in space is an absurd fantasy that is in violent conflict with the reality of space as an airless, inhospitable, largely resource…

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Please don't reply to trollish comments by making the thread even worse, and please don't make it personal.

Re: Making Humans a Multiplanetary Species [video]

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Post by madamelic »

massel wrote: post #12
lucb1e wrote: post #4

"Livestream starting soon". Does anyone know what time they're starting? (And please use a numeric timezone, I'm not a walking timezone database.)

I've never watched an Elon Musk livestream that started on time. Not sure if I'm spoiled by Apple keynotes always starting on time, or if live stream start times at SpaceX are just as loose as the company's other timelines

I guess time is hard to measure when you deal with fast things???? (Terrible, non-sensical joke)
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