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U.S. regulators accuse Palantir of bias against Asians

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Re: U.S. regulators accuse Palantir of bias against Asians

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Post by ryuker16 »

guelo wrote: post #12

Here's the actual government complaint, the allegations are listed in sections 10 and 11, https://www.dol.gov/sites/default/files/newsroom/newsrelease... My concerns, 1) why is the qualified candidate pool, whatever that is, so overwhelmingly Asian, 73-85%? Isn't the candidate selection process biased towards Asians? 2) The complaint is concerned about the use of employee referrals. Studies have shown that building t…

Id imagine indians in india looking for visa sponsorship. They spam alot of jobs regardless of visa sponsorship

Re: U.S. regulators accuse Palantir of bias against Asians

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Post by jonnybgood »

yesthereis wrote: post #224

This is a symptom of quota system that many schools and companies use to achieve diversity. Unfortunately, as Asian American, I have experienced it firsthand. Asian Americans are some of highest achieving minority, but due to their smaller number there is not enough quotas allocated to them. Many of my friends could not get into their first choice colleges or didn't get scholarships even with perfect grades, extracur…

> then got scholarships because of only ethnicity.

Are you absolutely certain of that? How did you know?

Re: U.S. regulators accuse Palantir of bias against Asians

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Post by ryuker16 »

munchbunny wrote: post #27

The part that doesn't make sense to me is... what does Palantir have to gain by discriminating? The other way this happens is by cultural biases causing discrimination, but not intentionally with some specific goal in mind. I'm operating only on anecdotes, but in the tech industry, discriminating against Asians at the intern/ground level seems to be a non-issue. Maybe different story when you get to management, and m…

Some companies prefer a "white" office and too many asians is an issue.

Alternatively, they trashed resumes with south east asian names and schools becuase they usually arent even usa citizens.

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Post by Fomite »

paulddraper wrote: post #209
kelukelugames wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LMAO. I'm sorry but that's hilarious. How many years were you there?

I didn't go there, but I thought the same. "Techs" seem to always be private...MIT, Cal Tech, Florida Tech, etc. (Oh, by the way, Florida Tech definitely fits the aforementioned stereotype.)

Virginia Tech is also public.

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Post by Fomite »

munchbunny wrote: post #27

The part that doesn't make sense to me is... what does Palantir have to gain by discriminating? The other way this happens is by cultural biases causing discrimination, but not intentionally with some specific goal in mind. I'm operating only on anecdotes, but in the tech industry, discriminating against Asians at the intern/ground level seems to be a non-issue. Maybe different story when you get to management, and m…

Discrimination doesn't have to be intentional. Just the tendency to hire "people like me" can be problematic.

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Post by barry-cotter »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #166
tomp wrote: post #99

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I agree woth this. I and my friends always wondered how so many Asians get accepted to top UK universities (with very high English-language requirements), when they can barely speak a word of intelligible English. Now I have a close friend from China, and the mistery is solved: others are doing their exams/essays/assignments for them. Keep in mind though, this is likely a huge generalisation (not all Chinese cheat an…

>>this is likely a huge generalisation... Ya think? Sorry man I wouldn't be profiled as a cheater like that due to race or citizenship.

I live in China. I have not made any effort to learn about plagiarism or impersonating people at exams in the four years I've been here. I know one Chinese person who sat an English language proficiency exam for her cousin, another whose Bachelor's thesis was almost entirely plagiarised. I met a Canadian guy who did a Master's degree in econometrics at Tsinghua (top 3 university in China). Apparently plagiarism was rampant.

On a more anecdotal level one of my fiancee's friends was dating a guy who sold SAT answers for a while.

I have a couple of friends who teach at international high schools here in Shanghai. It takes quite a long time to get through to the students that plagiarism is not okay and is taken seriously.

By the way no one brought up race in this thread until you did.

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Post by ryuker16 »

Kadin wrote: post #198
MaxfordAndSons wrote: post #45

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That's what I thought too. I would imagine if something like this were the case, it would be more likely done out of clearance concerns or even a genuine fear of infiltration, than for customer facing optics.

Probably a big part of it. They might be very interested in appearing not to be a typical body shop. The odd thing is that there are fairly straightforward ways to write position descriptions such that the "qualified applicant" pool is as small and well-defined as you want it to be. This is practically a subspecialty within HR. That they are getting sued would seem to imply that they didn't do any of the normal proce…

These guys applying dont care what you write: its immigrate hell or high water.....worse, palantir might actually hire foreigners on visas...

I used to run an import/export business......Pakistan guys would try to connect online to score a business visitors visa. Some were upfront, others had no problem wasting 5 hours of your time with a fake business deal in hopes you'll sponsor a visitor visa at the end.

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Post by dastbe »

ng12 wrote: post #181
somedangedname wrote: post #178

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DFS == Depth First Search?

Yeah, given an acyclic graph print out each node's value. Passing candidates generally got it in five minutes.

Do you give them a graph data structure or something that is explicitly a tree?

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Post by sp527 »

bitter-pill wrote: post #227
tomp wrote: post #99

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I agree woth this. I and my friends always wondered how so many Asians get accepted to top UK universities (with very high English-language requirements), when they can barely speak a word of intelligible English. Now I have a close friend from China, and the mistery is solved: others are doing their exams/essays/assignments for them. Keep in mind though, this is likely a huge generalisation (not all Chinese cheat an…

Wow a tad racist eh? How about this, I wonder how whites get in to top schools as they have lower GPAs, lower SAT, lower activities, etc. than their asian counterparts. I put more than half the blame on the universities and their "DIVERSITY" BS.... Long term it really dilutes the value of education in my eyes...

Strong username to post content ratio.

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Post by Fomite »

toraforms wrote: post #70
Houshalter wrote: post #57

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It's not equivalent, because those are traditionally oppressed groups. Whereas Asians are not oppressed and are fantastically successful relative to their tiny portion of the general population. Based on the report above, they were hiring between 20%-40% asians, which is 5-9 times their rate in the general population! You could make an equally strong case that they are disparately impacting whites!

Internement Camps, Chinese Exclusion Act, the Asian massacre of 1871, low representation in sports and the media.

I'm sure the Hmong will be thrilled to know they've had it so easy.
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