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I cannot take this seriously. Even minor versions of Swift have breaking language changes and depredations. That tells me precisely it is too early for the enterprise.
That sounds like every enterprise application I've ever used – if you make money selling support and consulting, churn is awesome!
Hilarious that IBM still thinks of the enterprise as the arbiter of quality. Consumer is now setting the defacto standards, including on things like information security. IBM's days of having a voice in that conversation are probably more limited than they realize.
So... what's the "elevator pitch" for Swift? It has anything interesting over Elixir or Go (well, go's feature is "lack of feature" but you know what I mean) or Scala or Kotlin? I know that iOS and MacOS desperately needed a modern language, and great for them that they have it now, but does the rest of the world need it?
I think the pitch is that despite static typing, it offers a lot of multi-paradigm high-level features while remaining elegant with fairly minimal syntax compared to other native static languages like Rust or C++. It automatically manages memory but without a stop-the-world garbage collector and goes a long way to opening a lot of flexible design options to any developer: it has great support for generic programming,…
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I guess every team is different, but this attitude to dog fooding isn't great.
I literally just started to go back and re-learn some of the core concepts for the latest version... wow is Swift ugly! EDIT: I'm not attempting to discredit the greatness that can be had... Just wanted to describe a feeling which I had while using it is all!
It's a systems language, and imo way more beautiful than c++.
IBM says: we are ready to start making money by adding another buzzy technology and using it to provide shitware.
why weren't they ready before, according to you?
I cannot take this seriously. Even minor versions of Swift have breaking language changes and depredations. That tells me precisely it is too early for the enterprise.
"Enterprise" uses nodejs just fine... probably this is what gave IBM the idea to even try :)
On the other hand Swift had quite a few breaking changes in 2016.
So... what's the "elevator pitch" for Swift? It has anything interesting over Elixir or Go (well, go's feature is "lack of feature" but you know what I mean) or Scala or Kotlin? I know that iOS and MacOS desperately needed a modern language, and great for them that they have it now, but does the rest of the world need it?
1. Inferred static nominal typing with generics 2. 1st class support for Optionals 3. Support for Structs and Classes 4. Native binary & scripting mode 5. Automatic reference counting (instead of garbage collection) 6. Large standard library 7. Large corporate backer (Apple) 8. Open source 9. Good C, C++, & Obj-C interoperability 10. Decently fast ( https://medium.com/@qutheory/server-side-swift-vs-the-other-... )
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would you car to give some exampled ? My opinion is that the enterprise is a somewhat separate ecosystem. Thus "enterprise-ready" -ready is not a mark of quality, it's a mark of belonging to the enterprise ecosystem.
I'm wondering what makes swift ready for the enterprise ecosystem. It barely seems to meet the requirements of the "enthusiastic consumer" outside of Apple OS.