I cannot take this seriously. Even minor versions of Swift have breaking language changes and depredations. That tells me precisely it is too early for the enterprise.
IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
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Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#22Hilarious that IBM still thinks of the enterprise as the arbiter of quality. Consumer is now setting the defacto standards, including on things like information security.
IBM's days of having a voice in that conversation are probably more limited than they realize.
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a systems language, and imo way more beautiful than c++.
Absolutely. I'm not attempting to put it down as somehow not worthy of anyones time, just thought I'd mention how "cushioned" it all felt :P
What language do you prefer over Swift? I'm curious.
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#24The article mentions IBM's web framework:
https://developer.ibm.com/swift/kitura/
Has this one gained the most traction?
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#25I cannot take this seriously. Even minor versions of Swift have breaking language changes and depredations. That tells me precisely it is too early for the enterprise.
"Enterprise" uses nodejs just fine... probably this is what gave IBM the idea to even try :)
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#26I see a bunch of stuff in their github (https://github.com/ibm-swift), but not the language implementation itself. Does anyone know what its license is?
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#27I literally just started to go back and re-learn some of the core concepts for the latest version... wow is Swift ugly! EDIT: I'm not attempting to discredit the greatness that can be had... Just wanted to describe a feeling which I had while using it is all!
It's a systems language, and imo way more beautiful than c++.
It's not really predictable enough for a systems language.
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#28Hilarious that IBM still thinks of the enterprise as the arbiter of quality. Consumer is now setting the defacto standards, including on things like information security. IBM's days of having a voice in that conversation are probably more limited than they realize.
would you car to give some exampled ? My opinion is that the enterprise is a somewhat separate ecosystem. Thus "enterprise-ready" -ready is not a mark of quality, it's a mark of belonging to the enterprise ecosystem.
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#29So... what's the "elevator pitch" for Swift? It has anything interesting over Elixir or Go (well, go's feature is "lack of feature" but you know what I mean) or Scala or Kotlin? I know that iOS and MacOS desperately needed a modern language, and great for them that they have it now, but does the rest of the world need it?
It's fairly decent as far as OOP languages go, but I'd say it's appeal as server side language is limited to iOS devs though :).
Re: IBM says Swift is ready for the enterprise
#30I see a bunch of stuff in their github ( https://github.com/ibm-swift ), but not the language implementation itself. Does anyone know what its license is?
Do you mean https://github.com/apple/swift ?