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Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by joshumax »

fma wrote: post #308
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #264

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Try to understand the essence of the problem and the whole thing makes perfect sense. Problem: many spontaneous moments are missed because the phone is not immediately accessible. The phone is in the pocket and it takes seconds to dig out the phone and switch to the camera app, and by that time I missed the moment. Solution: put a camera at line of sight. Make it super simple to capture. When you phrase it as a camer…

Why not just enjoy the spontaneous moment rather than fiddling with a phone or press a button on the glasses. The odds of looking back through all your archived 10 second video and reliving the spontaneous moment is pretty nill.

Hey, as a glass owner, maybe this will at least give privacy advocates something else to yell at for a change...

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by n72 »

Kiro wrote: post #265
n72 wrote: post #218

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Take a long, deep breath. Then take a few steps backwards, so you can take the scene in with a slightly broader perspective. Now hark back to how many times someone has been breathlessly been compared to Steve Jobs and how many times the person who has made that comparison has ended up looking silly. Let's give Evan a few years before we start fanboying him.

> Let's give Evan a few years before we start fanboying him. Apart from the norm that fanboying is bad, why? Isn't his resume pretty good already?

Apart from that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?

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Post by clort »

acid__ wrote: post #292
gcr wrote: post #273

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Agree. I would want to avoid people who use these. Unlike google glass, recording and broadcasting to the Internet is the only purpose for this product.

But unlike Google Glass, you can only record for 10 seconds at a time, and you'll watch people make a motion to start recording before it happens.

and apparently it has a light showing when it is recording

(cynical me: for now)

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Post by clort »

pmontra wrote: post #159
carleverett wrote: post #76

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A few of the more significant American innovations in the last 15-20 years: -CRISPR, gene editing -iTunes, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc. -re-usable space rockets (Spacex and Blue Origin) -IBM's Watson and Deep Blue, Google's AlphaGo -LIGO's detection of gravitational waves -MIT's improvements in lithium ion technology -NASA's exploratory discoveries on Mars, Mercury, Pluto, Saturn, etc. -Google -Wikipedia -Facebook -Tesla…

Actually AlphaGo is British. DeepMind was well ahead on that road when Google bought it. All the rest is American AFAIK even if other countries have similar technologies and successes for space exploration and detection of gravitational waves. If you go back more than 20 years, space exploration was USA vs USSR with an early Soviet advantage.

Also, Elon Musk came from South Africa and did not become a US citizen until 2002.. I don't know that that makes anything that Tesla or SpaceX have invented to be not completely American, but if he is considered the driving force, then .. there could be a doubt

Hey, immigration is great! Steve Jobs was also the son of an immigrant..

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by clort »

StavrosK wrote: post #128
Sir_Substance wrote: post #103

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>It's awkward to pull out a phone and start taking video when you're in a club From my perspective, that's a feature not a problem. It's obvious what you're doing, and of you try to photograph something really inappropriate, I can always slap the phone out of your hand. With snapchat (or google glass) style specs, I essentially need to attack your face to stop you filming, a far more aggressive action. I'd love to be…

The lenses are so wide it'll be really hard to get anything other than shots of large things close up.

on this model

on next years model?

on next years cheap chinese imitation?

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by StavrosK »

clort wrote: post #325
StavrosK wrote: post #128

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The lenses are so wide it'll be really hard to get anything other than shots of large things close up.

on this model on next years model? on next years cheap chinese imitation?

You're still limited by physics, they will have horrible (borderline useless) low-light performance and limited resolution.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by chris_7 »

fma wrote: post #308
TAForObvReasons wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try to understand the essence of the problem and the whole thing makes perfect sense. Problem: many spontaneous moments are missed because the phone is not immediately accessible. The phone is in the pocket and it takes seconds to dig out the phone and switch to the camera app, and by that time I missed the moment. Solution: put a camera at line of sight. Make it super simple to capture. When you phrase it as a camer…

Why not just enjoy the spontaneous moment rather than fiddling with a phone or press a button on the glasses. The odds of looking back through all your archived 10 second video and reliving the spontaneous moment is pretty nill.

Well, it's especially difficult when the video self-destructs within 24 hours.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

I think what people are overlooking is that this device has stereo cameras by default. That means every snap likely has reasonably quality depth for each snap. With the scale of users they will likely have the largest consumer based depth capture platform in the market. That's actually a big deal for building infrastructure needed for the AR ecosystem.

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Post by mojowo11 »

mozumder wrote: post #17
potatoyogurt wrote: post #10

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It also doesn't look nearly as dorky as Google Glass did. Google Glass had the problem where it was trying to be an all-purpose life-enhancing thing that people would wear all the time, so it was trying to be both invisible and distinctive. This doesn't need to pretend to be something that you can forget you're wearing or something that you can pair with any type of outfit -- it has a strong sense of style, and it's…

This is a dead-end product. People aren't going to wear this, because they don't want to creep out people by having a camera pointed at them all the time. This was the real problem with Google Glass. Also, everyone already carries around a camera in their smartphone. They aren't going to add another.

Teenagers right now have a different attitude about how their camera interacts with the world, by virtue of having been raised in a perpetually-filmable world. For a teenager, everyone they know has had a camera with them pretty much as long as they can remember. They've already got a camera pointed at them all the time. It only takes a few seconds to start filming something with your phone.

People who are 30 are going to be weirded out by this. People who are 18 are not. They already have the assumption that anything they do in public might be filmed and shared on social media. And they want to be able to quickly film anything they're doing in public and put it on social media.

Re: Snapchat Releases First Hardware Product, Spectacles

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Post by xellisx »

90002 wrote: post #65
mozumder wrote: post #17

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This is a dead-end product. People aren't going to wear this, because they don't want to creep out people by having a camera pointed at them all the time. This was the real problem with Google Glass. Also, everyone already carries around a camera in their smartphone. They aren't going to add another.

Sorry, I have to disagree with you here. Google Glass never achieved mass adoption amongst consumers due to the simple fact that they weren't fashionable, imo. Excluding SV, many people saw them as ugly and creepy.

I thought the price tag was the major obstacle to Google Glass.
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