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Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by imaginenore »

kbenson wrote: post #21
jedberg wrote: post #12

> Cabin Overheat Protection I hope that besides cooling the car it includes a feature that pulls down some signs in the windows that says "no really the A/C is on and my kid/dog is fine, don't break the glass". I mean I'm kinda joking here but not really. This has been a problem for Prius owners for a long time (they can have a/c on manually when the car is off)

Definitely. The fact the some states allow people to break the glass on cars to rescue overheating animals under certain circumstances is good. The fact that people know that they are allowed to do this under some circumstances, but not all the requirements that make it okay is not good. I once left my dog in my car while I walked 150 feet across a single level parking lot into a building, spent 90 seconds inside, an…

You have to always consider what will happen if you pass out. Your dog will die a slow and painful death if not for the people breaking the glass.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by mikeash »

crististm wrote: post #45
M_Grey wrote: post #29

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The safest bet is just to wait for a couple of minutes, observe the animal for any changes. It's going to become really clear in that time if there's distress, or just... being a dog. Then, if you're still concerned call the police, and wait for them. If while waiting you become concerned for the dog's life, break the window.

that requires... thinking

It's also tremendously inconvenient. You might be a few minutes late for your next thing if you wait for the police. Doing the right thing is only reasonable if it costs nothing.

(In case I did deadpan too well, BIG FAT SARCASM INDICATOR.)

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by mikeash »

calinet6 wrote: post #70
toddmorey wrote: post #66

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I came into the ownership experience pretty nervous that the touchscreen would be a distraction. But it works and works well. The screen is huge and all the targets are a comfortable size. You don't really get a feeling for the real scale of thing from a screenshot. It's organized and intuitive, with common controls well anchored to the edges and corners. Working with an active navigation route was the one area where…

Thanks! That's good to hear and sounds better in real life.

For what it's worth, I'd say about the same. You can generally ignore the touchscreen while driving, and at least for me, its mere presence isn't distracting. I was worried about it, but it turned out not to be a problem.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by mikeash »

makomk wrote: post #63
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #18

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Well, sure, if it's 72 and partly cloudy out. My car can do that for years by leaving the windows open. This feature only really matters when it's swelteringly hot out. What if I park a black Tesla at the San Diego airport for a week-long vacation, and it's 100 degrees and unmitigated direct sun? Will I come back to a battery that can't get me home? That would be when I would want this feature to avoid damage to my c…

Isn't "up to a year on full charge" also the longest you can leave a Model S parked before the battery goes flat and it's bricked? It does sound like they've calculated their figures based on the cooling never actually kicking in.

Not even. You lose about 1% per day, and then the manual warns that it's bad to let it sit for more than two months after it goes to zero. That's about five months total, if you start from 100%, before something bad happens. I don't think they specify exactly what, but better not to find out.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by palebluedot »

CapitalistCartr wrote: post #64
manmal wrote: post #60

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I never leave my small kids in the car to enter a building. Even if I just plan to spend only a couple seconds inside the building, things could somehow go bad (some kind of emergency), and then nobody knows about the kids. Especially in hot weather. Apart from the potential of a traumatizing situation for children, even a stationary AC might fail. Yes, that's all not so likely, but why take any chances?

Driving your car is more risky than the odds the A/C happening to fail and the car abruptly overheating in a minute. A serious car accident is not so likely, but why take any chances?

I don't think that is what they meant. It read to me that they meant, a personal emergency could happen to _them_ while in the store (heart attack, fall and hit head, robbery, etc..). What would have been a safe 5-minute trip could turn into a multi-hour ordeal, and nobody knows to go rescue the kid stuck in the (now lethally) hot car.

Probability may be low, but it is an increased risk that can be mitigated to a certain extent by just not getting in the habit of leaving your kids in the car when running even short errands.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by wazoox »

silon7 wrote: post #49
koenigdavidmj wrote: post #3

So a touchscreen meant you lose tactile feedback. We knew that already. But now all the buttons move around too?

Lack of touchscreen was a + point when deciding to buy my current car. IMO, if the touchscreen serves as more than one button/action while driving, it's a broken design. Even the BMW "wheel button" is a better one.

OTOH a colleague of mine has a new Mercedes, and the UI is a complete nightmare... No touchscreen though :)

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by JugMarker »

dewski wrote: post #28
Mao_Zedang wrote: post #26

I have to pay $200 to get the software in my car updated and its crap.

Why do you have to pay $200?

BMW wanted to charge me €450 for an update for my navigation CD. That was around 2004 or so. Oh, and around €1000 for an iPod connector. The nerve of these guys.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by mhandley »

zyx321 wrote: post #59
userbinator wrote: post #15

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It reminds me of one of the points from this old yet almost prescient joke: http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm 9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.

> 6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single "This Car Has Performed An Illegal Operation" warning light. Oh, how we laughed.

> 10. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off." Three out of ten; that's better than most lists of predictions of the future. Now, if rumours are to be believed, we'll see number 5 shortly.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by mlvljr »

palebluedot wrote: post #75
CapitalistCartr wrote: post #64

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Driving your car is more risky than the odds the A/C happening to fail and the car abruptly overheating in a minute. A serious car accident is not so likely, but why take any chances?

I don't think that is what they meant. It read to me that they meant, a personal emergency could happen to _them_ while in the store (heart attack, fall and hit head, robbery, etc..). What would have been a safe 5-minute trip could turn into a multi-hour ordeal, and nobody knows to go rescue the kid stuck in the (now lethally) hot car. Probability may be low, but it is an increased risk that can be mitigated to a cer…

You may get hit by a car outside, plainly - speaking of dangers awaiting - where there is one car, there are more.

Re: Tesla Software Update 8.0

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Post by 6DM »

mikeash wrote: post #72
crististm wrote: post #45

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that requires... thinking

It's also tremendously inconvenient. You might be a few minutes late for your next thing if you wait for the police. Doing the right thing is only reasonable if it costs nothing. (In case I did deadpan too well, BIG FAT SARCASM INDICATOR.)

I know it's sarcasm, just wanted to add that I've never seen police respond in under 30 minutes. Even when the police department is literally 20 minutes WALKING distance.

Edit: That was in a small town though, I guess it's different in the city where I constantly hear sirens.

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