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Re: Nootropics

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post #385

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if we're going to get pedantic, what is the chance that the weight ended up in exactly the same spot that it started in, when moved by a person?

The position doesn't matter, as gravity doesn't act along the surface of the Earth -- it only acts radially. So the work is only affected by the height above the ground (or radial distance from centre of the Earth if you prefer). So if the person puts the weight on the floor where they picked it up from they will have done zero work on it. Your attempt at pedantry was misdirected -- I would've said that because of th…

i don't buy it. you're telling me a draw bridge, or a lifting door, does no work? get out of here.

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post #385

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The position doesn't matter, as gravity doesn't act along the surface of the Earth -- it only acts radially. So the work is only affected by the height above the ground (or radial distance from centre of the Earth if you prefer). So if the person puts the weight on the floor where they picked it up from they will have done zero work on it. Your attempt at pedantry was misdirected -- I would've said that because of th…

i don't buy it. you're telling me a draw bridge, or a lifting door, does no work? get out of here.

The overall work done by a system is the integral of the force vector dot product the direction of movement. If you have a conservative force setup (no friction) then any motion that takes you back to where you started does no work. We did this in first year physics at university (we also did it in high school, but other school systems probably don't work the same way).

You're confusing work and energy. Energy is expended, but work is not. Work relates to the change in potential energy of a system -- which will not change in a conservative system (assuming you return to the original point). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_(physics)

Re: Nootropics

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post #392

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i don't buy it. you're telling me a draw bridge, or a lifting door, does no work? get out of here.

The overall work done by a system is the integral of the force vector dot product the direction of movement. If you have a conservative force setup (no friction) then any motion that takes you back to where you started does no work. We did this in first year physics at university (we also did it in high school, but other school systems probably don't work the same way). You're confusing work and energy. Energy is exp…

yeah, i completely agree.

however, you will never, ever, achieve a zero work vector in a weight room, whether you're off by a micron or a mile. give it a shot, tell me how it goes.

you're arguing for an impossible result using textbook definitions, pretty much what i would call 'useless pedantry'.

Re: Nootropics

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You are making the perfect the enemy of the good. If you compare his rigor to that of a fully funded NIH experiment, yes it will be found lacking. But if you compare it to all of the personal the experimentation that any of us do on a regular basis i.e. trying out a low protein diet, a paleolithic diet, TDD, sleeping more, not being on the computer before bed etc... Then it is the height of rigor.

Even to that standard, "the height of rigor" it is most certainly not.

You must hangout with different people than I do because the extent of my friend's personal experimentation is "I tried Yoga, I feel better. I think I'll keep going." None of them have ever done testing, cross-over trials, or any attempt at blinding their personal experimentation.

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The vast majority of diets fail in the long run. Fat people forced to lose weight develop the symptoms of starving people and obsess about food, and always quickly return to their previous weights after release. During diets their metabolisms slow down to keep them at the same body weight despite the decreased calories.

that's because people are 'lazy' - they don't want to do the hard work, rather they spend significant amount of time, energy and cash to chase pure dietary solutions. they expect that some 30-day dietary course will change their life, especially when right after they go back to their old eating habits. obviously, it doesn't work, ever. so they try another diet and so on... I believe massive changes in life can be don…

People don't have infinite willpower. There is no magical distinction between minds and bodies. We are just animals and we are genetically programmed to strongly desire to eat food. The vast majority of people who attempt to diet fail.

When diets work, they require pushing the body to the point of starvation and keeping it there, which is just not sustainable. The body goes into starvation mode and tells the brain to do everything it can to sustain food. No amount of willpower can overcome that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/08/health/08fat.html?pagewant...

> fat people who lost large amounts of weight might look like someone who was never fat, but they were very different. In fact, by every metabolic measurement, they seemed like people who were starving.

>The Rockefeller subjects also had a psychiatric syndrome, called semi-starvation neurosis, which had been noticed before in people of normal weight who had been starved. They dreamed of food, they fantasized about food or about breaking their diet. They were anxious and depressed; some had thoughts of suicide. They secreted food in their rooms. And they binged.

>Eventually, more than 50 people lived at the hospital and lost weight, and every one had physical and psychological signs of starvation. There were a very few who did not get fat again, but they made staying thin their life’s work, becoming Weight Watchers lecturers, for example, and, always, counting calories and maintaining themselves in a permanent state of starvation.

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Well someone should tell my Psychiatrist that as it's the dose she started me at (actually 2x 30mg, once in the morning and once in the afternoon). The side effects were quite severe so I only took that dose once.

Thats Crazy! I was started at 5 IIRC.

I think her reasons were 1) my weight and 2) It took a lot of Ritalin before I showed any theraputic response.

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#397

The best nootropic is getting a good nights sleep. It takes effort! Preparing for bed early and disciplining yourself to put the light out is not easy. Not nearly as easy as popping a pill. But it's so much more effective than any drug listed here. And for a safe and provable quick cognitive boost, take some caffeine, preferable green tea with theanine.

It's hard for me to fall asleep. I haven't cracked it yet how to do it perfectly. What helps: view the problem as improving your likelihood to sleep. Before I viewed the problem as falling asleep 100% of the time, which is a really defeating view to have when I can't fall asleep. Sleep tips that help me: 1. meditation: still experimenting with body-scan vs. breath meditation, they both help but have different effects…

Sleep hygiene did it for me. If I'm not sleeping or fucking, I get out of bed. Also no f.lux on the computer and Night Shift on my iPhone in the evening does wonders.

It took a few months to train my body and mind, but now I fall asleep in under 5 minutes after I go to bed.

Re: Nootropics

#398

The best nootropic is getting a good nights sleep. It takes effort! Preparing for bed early and disciplining yourself to put the light out is not easy. Not nearly as easy as popping a pill. But it's so much more effective than any drug listed here. And for a safe and provable quick cognitive boost, take some caffeine, preferable green tea with theanine.

And guarding your health, in the first place.

P.S. No one will do it for you. (Not even your parents.)

Re: Nootropics

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I have a problem with all these website-blocking tools that I want them to behave differently than they do, perhaps you can suggest something? The issue is that I want to block only the main , 'browsing' pages while allowing deep links to that same site. For example, I want to block reddit, when googling some question turns out an answer that's on a niche subreddit I've never seen, I need to be able to read it. Howev…

If you have the patience to manually blacklist URLs, you can do this pretty easily with a regex-based site blocker. (My favorite for Chrome is Simple Blocker, which doesn't document that it uses regexes but in fact does: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/simple-blocker/akf... ). For example, the following blacklist regex patterns block the Reddit front page and the main page of any subreddits and multireddits…

Thank you, this has been really helpful for me and my habits.

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Have a baby. Your sleeping less is my average night's sleep, split into two or three chunks. Amazing how easy it is to get to sleep when you've spent the last two and a half years in a low level state of exhaustion ;)

I've always marveled at how parents do it. Really, you are the true hero's in the world ;)

Split the night with the other parent (if not a single parent). Gets you ~5-6hrs/night even during the worst of it.

Trade sleep-in days on the weekend.

A combination of luck (definitely) and technique (maybe) can have 'em sleeping through the night in 2-3 months, so it's not necessarily a long-term problem.

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