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The other HN thread suggests this not actually a dark conspiracy by Microsoft but simply a case of missing linux drivers for the storage devices. This sounds believable to me. But I'll put my tinfoil hat on just for fun and pretend it was an intentional move. Could this make sense as a new twist on the old strategy, making it "Embrace, Extinguish, Extend"? With the WSL, they made it theoretically possible to run Linu…
A "product expert" forum support guy reveals a SECRET AGREEMENT between Microsoft and Lenovo. Come on.
EDIT: http://imgur.com/a/niewu
Just as a FWIW, here is another option:
As per my opinion on this, I'd rather see people not have knee-jerk reactions to Lenovo screwing up Linux support and people rushing for "alternatives", but rather make a concerted effort to support companies focused on Linux-supported hardware (for the long-term).
Also, this story combined with the HP printer story really makes you wonder why hardware manufacturers are going backwards towards locked-systems when their software divisions "embrace the world of open source". Hardware really is the final frontier for open-source.
The other HN thread suggests this not actually a dark conspiracy by Microsoft but simply a case of missing linux drivers for the storage devices. This sounds believable to me. But I'll put my tinfoil hat on just for fun and pretend it was an intentional move. Could this make sense as a new twist on the old strategy, making it "Embrace, Extinguish, Extend"? With the WSL, they made it theoretically possible to run Linu…
> some if the more consumer-oriented parts of the Linux ecosystem I'm scratching my head here. Help me out. I've seen extremely limited consumer take-up of desktop Linux.
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I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon (most recent gen) and really regret it for a great many reasons. Wish I had gone for the XPS. Actually what swayed me was the very slightly larger screen.
Mind sharing what your biggest issue with the X1 Carbon is? (In the market for a new laptop, and the X1 Carbon is/was on the list.)
Despite that, I am making new purchases with Dell mostly because of price and service. Check out the Latitude E7470 in comparison to the X1.
A "product expert" forum support guy reveals a SECRET AGREEMENT between Microsoft and Lenovo. Come on.
Just out of curiosity, what's the rationale for MS & Lenovo to do this, why to risk PR? The number of people wanting to install Linux is marginal and they are already "on the wrong side".
I guess they just wanted to lock out Windows 7/8. They don't gain anything by denying Linux to a few people. But preventing that the buyer can downgrade to Windows 7 fits exactly to their strategy and makes sense for Microsoft. Also, an agreement to lock out Linux might not be legal from an antitrust perspective, whereas an agreement to restrict usage to the current version of the OS is much less critical.
This seems to be the most reasonable theory in the entire discussion.
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Why don't you use KVM/libvirt instead of Vbox?
I'm not sure that would help - libvirt also has kernel modules
It's virtualbox which for some reason won't upstream their kernel modules, so they have to be compiled and installed by its users.