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I found this essay interesting: > It’s not “creepy” if he’s hot. I freely admit it. When a very attractive stranger approaches me and tells me I’m beautiful, it brightens my day. When a guy who is short, fat or balding does it, it makes my skin crawl no matter how tactful he is about it. I just want him to go away. I’m not alone in feeling this way. Most women feel the same, but hide the true extent of it when the gu…
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Not are. Are perceived as such by the surveyed set of women. Specifically, an ugly solicitor elicits a reaction comparable to a zombie in some women. This is generally a subconscious reaction belying sexual selection. Extreme but it happens. Less extreme version is tied to disgust feeling. The root is probably the same: detecting contagious people and animals.
Then the article should be about the inexcusable reactions of these women, instead of blaming ugly men for thinking they get to be human too.
I found this essay interesting: > It’s not “creepy” if he’s hot. I freely admit it. When a very attractive stranger approaches me and tells me I’m beautiful, it brightens my day. When a guy who is short, fat or balding does it, it makes my skin crawl no matter how tactful he is about it. I just want him to go away. I’m not alone in feeling this way. Most women feel the same, but hide the true extent of it when the gu…
This essay is a troll, surely? Or, the author is mentally disturbed.
Likewise, when going from reading things like http://tinyurl.com/schrodingers-rapist, or various blogs written by and for those on the receiving end of stalking and street harassment, it is very easy to feel a lot of anxiety about the possibility of creeping someone out. But humans are strange and varied people who have all sorts of backgrounds and perceptions. And you have to work to accept this. You still must avoid doing things that will cause a reasonable predictive model of people to feel fear: Keep a situationally-reasonable distance from people. Don't shout things at people on the street. Don't present sexual/romantic intent to someone with a high cost to removing themselves from the situation. There are ways you can trade time/money or your preferences for other's comfort if you choose: learn to choose and wear nicer clothing. Speak in a slightly higher pitch. Avoid facial hair or tattoos. Have a friend smell-check you if your nose is impaired. But ultimately, people percieve things in different ways and some might perceive you as a threat. And you have to work to accept this.
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Interesting side note: The words "Awkward" and "Creepy" don't exist in German and there are no direct or inderect equivalents. It goes so far that it is culturally impossible to have creepy or awkward behaviour.
Creepy ~= Gruselig/Unheimlich Awkward ~= Komisch/Unbeholfen And the concepts totally do translate to German. A lot of people would describe a "creepy guy" as "gruselig" in German. Actually we've imported the word "Freak" to describe these people. As an aside: there was a German copy of the "Beauty and the Geek" show that was far more dehumanising and called "Das Model und der Freak" where the entire concept was that…
> Awkward ~= Komisch/Unbeholfen
Those translations don't really contain that additional negativity of "Creepy/Awkward". It is hard really pinpoint it though.
> there was a German copy of the "Beauty and the Geek" show that was far more dehumanising and called "Das Model und der Freak" where the entire concept was that "pretty" c-list celebrity women would give a "nerdy loser" a makeover to turn him into a generic alpha male womanisers.
But that was so much more over the top. Those guys were more like "eklig" (disgusting).
It's the most confident statement in the article, but without supplying a reference. Can this be validated?
The article isn't about the creepiness described in the comments here. It's more about creepiness in general, like in clowns. It's pretty standard stuff actually...creepiness isn't just physical threat, it's a sense of impurity or a pollution of a thing's essence. Clowns are impure in the sense that they are humans gone wrong, with waxlike and distorted features.
Of course, an openly-readable Internet forum is a risky place to open yourself up emotionally.
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Creepy ~= Gruselig/Unheimlich Awkward ~= Komisch/Unbeholfen And the concepts totally do translate to German. A lot of people would describe a "creepy guy" as "gruselig" in German. Actually we've imported the word "Freak" to describe these people. As an aside: there was a German copy of the "Beauty and the Geek" show that was far more dehumanising and called "Das Model und der Freak" where the entire concept was that…
> Creepy ~= Gruselig/Unheimlich > Awkward ~= Komisch/Unbeholfen Those translations don't really contain that additional negativity of "Creepy/Awkward". It is hard really pinpoint it though. > there was a German copy of the "Beauty and the Geek" show that was far more dehumanising and called "Das Model und der Freak" where the entire concept was that "pretty" c-list celebrity women would give a "nerdy loser" a makeove…
The fact that "creepy" is used in German language sometimes points towards that the terms are not exactly identical, but it's a tiny difference and in no way big enough to say that the concept doesn't exist. It's just a shorthand for something that otherwise might require a modifier or explanation, + using English is cool.
Just take comfort in knowing that female attractiveness usually drops off a cliff far earlier than male attractiveness does. The same girl writing that essay will one day be 40+ and begging for any of those "genetic superiors" to give her five seconds, while the same male "uggo" with a stable income and decent hygiene will be able to take his pick of a bunch of nicer women who didn't view the whole of humanity throug…
yeah, female skin ages faster, and skin is what we see on others. this ain't fair, but we can't fool genetics (for now). unconscious behavior like this made me lose much of the respect I had for women (and I started with lots of it!). the better I knew them the worse it got. sheepish mentality, playing all kinds of weird mind games all the time, frequent need of assurance of attractiveness and constant looking in the…
I agree. What really gets me is that you're told to open up and talk about your emotions. They paint to bottle up as a negative trait, but women usually lose all respect for men – friends and partners – who share their own fears and worries. One time is enough to ruin your image and dismiss the good times. Empathy is replaced by disgust, since they don't want to be seen around with a weakling.
I still believe everyone is worthy of respect and dignity. But I'm not going to put my trust on women. Sensitive men are creepy.