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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by saboot »

imron wrote: post #95
brown9-2 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website mentioning a meme on her website is disqualifying?

> huh? It's horrifying https://www.hillaryclinton.com/post/donald-trump-pepe-the-fr... Edit: In response to your edit, she's attacking a cartoon frog . In seriousness. Not only that, but she's trying to attribute characteristics to that frog that simply aren't any core part of why people post Pepe memes. All of that questions the sensibilities of her campaign. Basically her campaign is going all out trying to paint T…

You haven't been paying attention. Yes, pepe was fine, and yes many people who post it do so with no ill intent.

But you are ignoring that people who are proudly racist are openly admitting to using pepe specifically to broaden and popularize explicitly racist ideas. That deserves to have light shown on it.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by mindcrime »

mi100hael wrote: post #227
monochromatic wrote: post #155

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I usually do like the Libertarian candidate better than the other options... but not this year.

What's not to like about "What's Aleppo?" Gary and his RINO running mate?

That Aleppo thing is a total joke. If our foreign policy wasn't a complete joke, there would be no need for the President to know anything about Aleppo. As it is, it's still questionable if there's any reason for him/her to do so.

Keep in mind, Johnson is running for President, not Chief Cartographer.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by 001sky »

mcphage wrote: post #41
jimmywanger wrote: post #26

The actual facts aside, this makes her appear far less electable, as her campaign camp looks like it's being run by a bunch of clowns. Just from a PR perspective, this could not have come at a worse time. The collapse at the 9/11 memorial, the "basket of deplorables", and the mention of the Pepe meme on her official website. Right after a couple of muslim terror attacks, some evidence surfaces purporting that she tri…

> Most people do believe that where there's smoke, there's fire. Which is why continuously pushing smoke, even when you know there's no fire, is such an effective strategy. How many Benghazi hearings were there, that all came to the same conclusion? But people hear "oh, there's another Benghazi hearing, it must mean something that there's so many!" even though everyone involved knows that it means nothing.

Couple of points -- (1) Colin powell's leaked e-mails apparently called the meetings a circus and a sideshow but also placed blame at the feet of HRC for outcome of that episode. that last bit isn't always quoted in the media.

(2) The leak to the NYT about the server that broke this story appeared has been originated by the Obama administration. They were seeking to clip her wings as whispers about her policy differences with the Obama administration were circulating on Iran. Once HRC became such a sure thing she was inevitable as POTUS it would rended BSO an early lame duck, and on policy in the middle east where the two differ, would create issues for obama establishing a legacy. Obama now has the ability to pardon her (or in the actual turn of events, the Justice granted 'stonetear' limited immunity and killed a looming FBI indictment).

So both of these narratives play into a deeper and more complex game existing in DC than any sound bite or talking point proffered from a PR agency will attest.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by throwaway2016b »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #262
throwaway2016b wrote: post #260

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I think this is a big part of why the SV powerhouses are mobilizing against Trump. They rally the troops with hyperbole and accusations of racism and sexism, but in private they're afraid of losing their H1B wage slaves and tax havens.

Some of that I suppose. But also, he's an evil man. Doesn't take a conspiracy theory to want to see him defeated.

Hillary is far, far more deserving of that label than Trump. To campaign and donate millions of dollars on her behalf requires ignorance, a seriously twisted moral compass, or some financial and political incentives that you don't want to talk about.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by MichaelGG »

bcg1 wrote: post #258
douche wrote: post #236

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Fixing a broken, oft-abused system is contemptible now?

I think the H1B program is terribly flawed and certainly abused. But Trump is not talking about reforming it, he only talks about in the context of "foreigners stealing our jobs" (paraphrase), which I find quite contemptible. And without a meaningful plan to replace it would close an avenue for people to legally immigrate to the US, which makes it seem like he might have a problem with legal immigrants.

Why is "foreigners stealing our jobs" contemptible? Assuming H1B is abused (I understand this can be in dispute), why should a candidate for a country not want to help its own citizens?

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by psyklic »

School-Cotton wrote: post #163
ben174 wrote: post #146

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On the football game analogy: yes, there are two teams. One of these teams will win. Both teams suck but at the end of the day, most people will want to vote for the person who made the most points. It's actually exactly what it is.

I am not discussing who you should vote for. I am discussing whether Hillary Clinton is a corrupt person. Those are two different questions. If Trump[1] is even worse, then sure, vote for Hillary. But that doesn't mean that she's good or that people have to like her. As an aside: if that were the argument Hillary fans had been making the whole time: "Yeah, we know Hillary is bad and corrupt, but at least she's way be…

This reads very presumptuously. The FBI stated she was reckless yet did nothing illegal. Reckless neither implies bad nor corrupt.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by 001sky »

robomc wrote: post #94
danso wrote: post #10

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I'm guessing that a person who asks this kind of "help-me-cover-something-up" question while mentioning that his client is "VERY VIP" is also completely oblivious of how findable things are on today's Internet. I'm guessing the Internet detective work might have come from something very serendipitous and casual: Someone interested in the email server scandal doing a search for "Paul Cambetta", which is a fairly rare…

Hey may not have viewed his actions as being a big deal - like, it's possible that they're not a big deal, outside of political hay-making. There's nothing in the thread to suggest he's trying to conceal anything meaningful in terms of the content of the correspondence. Presumably the "how does I delete sexy snapchats to the Saudis" thread was done more discretely.

Thats not true. The reddit thread explicitly states what he wants to do is legally and ethically problematic. And it spells out why. "That is why the functionality doesn exist in exhcange" was the sort of end result of the larger logic here.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by 001sky »

pessimizer wrote: post #245
794CD01 wrote: post #220

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More relevantly, both disqualifying.

There's no qualification to be POTUS other than your age and whether you were born American.

well there are other laws (eg violations of certain statutes that some accuse clinton of breeching) but there is no per se morality test in terms of ideas. The latter is a fundamental pillar of separation of powers.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by alecco »

alecco wrote: post #113

The original HN post got flagged and removed from HN homepage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12533757 250 points (more than this post at the moment)

Now this thread is below the fold showing 254 points on the FP and when you get in it says 312

Screenshots http://sli.mg/a/wMhiQp

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by zimzam »

throwaway2016b wrote: post #195

Meanwhile there is a picture of Hillary embracing a KKK member that the corrupt media refuses to mention. The kingmakers don't give a good goddamn about racism, except as a convenient narrative for purges. The 21st century equivalent of accusations of communism. https://i.sli.mg/FdqTAx.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd “It is almost impossible to imagine the United States Senate without Robert Byrd. He wa…

By the end of his career Robert Byrd was a repentant, former KKK member.

Trump is being embraced by current, active KKK members.

It is obtuse to pretend there's no difference between the two.

From your own Wikipedia link: "In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision — a jejune and immature outlook — seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."[23] Byrd also said, in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."[13]"

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