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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by newman314 »

Retric wrote: post #167
School-Cotton wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The point I'm making is that I don't think you, or anybody else actually cares about the emails Based on what evidence? > they care it's something they can criticize Clinton for. I'm no fan of Trump either. I wish Clinton were a good candidate so she would wipe the floor with him. > So of course nobody complained about it with Bush, because nobody cares about them. I was 12 years old when Bush was elected. That's w…

Based on nobody criticizing the several prior people in that same position that did the exact same thing. Sure, if it was just one or two that's one thing, but A email is public in the first place and B when your the fifth person in a row to do something you generally assume that's just how it's done.

Does not make it right (for anyone). Equal rules should apply.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by comex »

monocasa wrote: post #152
comex wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their comment is referencing Correct The Record, a pro-Clinton PAC which, according to a popular but false Reddit rumor, employs commenters to anonymously spread propaganda. See also: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/4xcwjb/what_i... Edit: At the time of this edit, three replies have asked for a citation on "false", so I may as well put it here. Barrier Breakers 2016, the subject of the original The Dai…

> but false Any citation for that?

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by comex »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #199
comex wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their comment is referencing Correct The Record, a pro-Clinton PAC which, according to a popular but false Reddit rumor, employs commenters to anonymously spread propaganda. See also: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/4xcwjb/what_i... Edit: At the time of this edit, three replies have asked for a citation on "false", so I may as well put it here. Barrier Breakers 2016, the subject of the original The Dai…

What has proved it to be false?

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by stale2002 »

mozumder wrote: post #225
danso wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, but it became under their jurisdiction when it was discovered that she did government business via the private server. There are various different reasons why (and when) her email was requested by investigators. If I'm not mistaken, the existence of Clinton's private server was alluded to when Guccifer 1.0 hacked Sidney Blumenthal's emails, which included memos to her private address: http://www.thesmokinggun.co…

> Yep, but it became under their jurisdiction when it was discovered that she did government business via the private server. No, it didn't. It's still her private email account. They can request nicely to see them, but they can't forcibly see them without a warrant.

There was a criminal investigation, and a freedom of information request. So yes, according to the courts, they WERE able to forcibly make her turn over the emails.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by Dagwoodie »

yolesaber wrote: post #179
Dagwoodie wrote: post #137

I have yet to see a single example of Trump's racism. It's an oft repeated cliche that has yet to be demonstrated by anyone. As much of a "clown" as trump might be, half of his labels are completely pulled out of thin air.

Trump was sued repeatedly in the 70s for racially prejudiced housing policies. In the 80s he was accused of racist employment practices in his casinos. In this election he has repeatedly retweeted and positively engaged with white supremacists on twitter. He has retweeted (false) racially-charged statistics. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/opinion/sunday/is-donald-t...

I sympathize with the alleged prejudiced housing policies, if they are in fact true. I don't get the outrage about tweets. The tweets that got re-tweeted weren't racist in the least, is the guy or gal in charge of his Twitter account (I assume it's not him, i'll give you that) supposed to look at the history of every tweeter to see if tweets they come across are from racists? If anything, one of the staffers doing the retweet screwed up and didn't vet the messenger, but that's hardly a blemish on Trump other than "lesson learned, vet your tweets better."

Edit: Some of the tweets he's re-tweeted are pretty questionable, i'll give you that much. I only saw a couple before, one about Jeb Bush which one article had as it's prime example so I was pretty confused.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by learc83 »

hiram112 wrote: post #218
colemickens wrote: post #194

What's wrong with HRC calling white supremacists and nationalists deplorable? (edit: I'll proudly take downvotes for calling a spade a spade.)

Because she's trying to assign guilt by association. I'm sure most people that support white supremacy are, in fact, Trump supporters. Does that logically make all Trump supporters white supremacists? And what is wrong with a bit of Nationalism? I personally feel globalization has most been a clever campaign to allow large business to play wage arbitrage. The current division of wealth in the US supports my idea.

>Does that logically make all Trump supporters white supremacists?

She never said that all Trump supporters are white supremacists. Did you listen to the quote? She said half of Trump supporters were racists, homophobes, xenophobes, etc... If you look at the polling data, her comments were pretty well supported.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by throwaway2016b »

minikites wrote: post #128
MichaelGG wrote: post #120

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Curious, do you have a handful of racist Trump quotes? Not stuff about illegals, but actual racist stuff (like not wanting to rent to blacks or something)? Trump aside, electing someone that's openly corrupt (DNC Wikileaks show they went against Bernie, against rules) seems to be far more dangerous to the future of the US and worldwide democracy. Up until now, corruption was sort of assumed, but if a publicly corrupt…

You don't think his rhetoric against undocumented immigrants is racist?

Is that you, Gary?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xlmU9LvtAs

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by bcg1 »

douche wrote: post #236
bcg1 wrote: post #176

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Incorrect. He wants to end the H1B visa program (despite the fact that he uses for seasonal work at his club in Florida) and he does not want to accept political refugees attempting to come to the US legally.

Fixing a broken, oft-abused system is contemptible now?

I think the H1B program is terribly flawed and certainly abused. But Trump is not talking about reforming it, he only talks about in the context of "foreigners stealing our jobs" (paraphrase), which I find quite contemptible. And without a meaningful plan to replace it would close an avenue for people to legally immigrate to the US, which makes it seem like he might have a problem with legal immigrants.

Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by [deleted] »

dgnnmdhn wrote: post #234
peteretep wrote: post #32

> Citation needed if you're > going to "correct the record." This is not Reddit, and it is not a place for accusing people of being paid shills. Please desist.

Occam's razor doesn't apply when the involved party has made malicious intent explicitly clear. Her own campaign has made it quite clear that they're doing this.

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Re: House panel looking into Reddit post about Clinton's email server

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Post by throwaway2016b »

douche wrote: post #236
bcg1 wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect. He wants to end the H1B visa program (despite the fact that he uses for seasonal work at his club in Florida) and he does not want to accept political refugees attempting to come to the US legally.

Fixing a broken, oft-abused system is contemptible now?

I think this is a big part of why the SV powerhouses are mobilizing against Trump. They rally the troops with hyperbole and accusations of racism and sexism, but in private they're afraid of losing their H1B wage slaves and tax havens.
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