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Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by Gargoyle »

drewrv wrote: post #29
headhunter wrote: post #4

At first I thought this was a total hoax, but the account has been deleted and the incriminating posts are over 2 years old. Here is a pastebin I found of online information linking all his profiles together: http://pastebin.com/NmXcUC1X This is pretty incriminating.

This isn't incriminating at all. There's no mention of changing the content/body, only removing her address from the to/from fields. That's a sensible thing to do if she doesn't want her private email address to be public knowledge, and the presence of her address in the to/from field can be inferred since, you know, it's her inbox. I feel like Hillary could hire someone to take her dog for a walk and millions of peo…

Removing her address isn't a big deal.

However the part about the 60 day retention policy and the user being able to choose which emails are saved past that policy might well lead to valid questions about the decision process on what was and was not retained.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by lamontcg »

e1ven wrote: post #23
headhunter wrote: post #4

At first I thought this was a total hoax, but the account has been deleted and the incriminating posts are over 2 years old. Here is a pastebin I found of online information linking all his profiles together: http://pastebin.com/NmXcUC1X This is pretty incriminating.

I don't want to speculate on who's account this is, and perhaps I'm missing something, but tokenizing the to/from addresses sounds like exactly the sort of thing you'd want to do before publicly releasing a lot of emails. Replacing VIP@example.com with ##VIP1## allows you to release the messages without revealing the email addresses of every person they've ever interacted with.

It also would be a good idea if you're doing this to solicit opinions about it in order to prove to a judge or grand jury that you're following some form of best practices to do this rather than just making up shit on your own.

Of course it should have really been done from a throw-away to avoid precisely this kind of spectacle from the general public.

The one thing I'll say is that clearly this IT guy really is an IT guy and is completely clueless about optics.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by threepipeproblm »

nimbleDT wrote: post #28

Exactly why I thought HN might find this story interesting, the 'we did it reddit!' factor is funny in light of the many times they've gotten things horribly wrong -- the Boston marathon bombing comes to mind. Kind of wish it hadn't been flagged and disappeared from the front page so quickly.

Improperly marking a similar post this morning as a "dupe" didn't work -- https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=threepipeproblm -- so people who don't want to hear this seem to have "flagged" it as off topic?

Meanwhile, some recent HN topics that were not flagged as off topic include:

* The '80s Public Access Films Produced by a California UFO Cult

* Affliction and Salvation: Love Was a Learned Art for Iris Murdoch

* My Motherland: Finding–and writing–the worlds where only I had been

* Plaster Perspectives on “Magical Gems”: Rethinking the Meaning of “Magic” in Cornell’s Dactyliotheca

* I quit my job, bought an army truck, and spent 19 months circumnavigating Africa

* The Real Lolita

So two points --

(a) I am not a Republican; and

(b) This seems deeply broken at best.

Can anyone convince me it isn't a form of censorship? I'm not too familiar with HN's moderation setup.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by threepipeproblm »

burkaman wrote: post #18
joshmn wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is pretty incriminating. It is, but it isn't. One could argue that someone, let's say Bob, happened to overhear some guy named Paul needing to do exactly this. He overheard it at a bar. Bob then thought "oh, well if it's someone really VIP, this could make for some good lulz with my efriends. Who does Paul work for that is _really_ VIP? Let me Google Paul." "Oh, here's his email address... stonetear@gmail.com.…

It isn't court of law incriminating, but it's more than enough for the court of public opinion.

Based on what? I mean this would seem to be in the circumstantial category, but that can be evidence. It seems kind of relevant that the guy who just pleaded the 5th to avoid incriminating himself about Hillary's server logs asked this specific question - though not a smoking gun.

I'm also curious of those who think that this was 2 years ago makes it irrelevant... are you guys suggesting that if Hillary's team were committing blatant felonies they wouldn't make any effort to clean up the trail until after it hit the front page? (by if I mean the material conditional)

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by threepipeproblm »

jordache wrote: post #8
joemi wrote: post #5

Maybe I'm completely ignorant of the situation, but it just sounds like he was trying to keep some email addresses private, in anticipation of some kind of potential release. Is that bad?

Yes it's pretty clear that the content of the email is not to be adjusted, just the To/From fields. This seems to be legitimate work before an anticipate public release of email.

If that were true, why did he specifically ask for help to "strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails".

source: reddit via http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=38414

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by sctb »

nimbleDT wrote: post #28

Exactly why I thought HN might find this story interesting, the 'we did it reddit!' factor is funny in light of the many times they've gotten things horribly wrong -- the Boston marathon bombing comes to mind. Kind of wish it hadn't been flagged and disappeared from the front page so quickly.

OK, we'll try overriding some of the user flags and see how the discussion goes.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12534132 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by dragonwriter »

threepipeproblm wrote: post #35
jordache wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes it's pretty clear that the content of the email is not to be adjusted, just the To/From fields. This seems to be legitimate work before an anticipate public release of email.

If that were true, why did he specifically ask for help to "strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails". source: reddit via http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=38414

> > Yes it's pretty clear that the content of the email is not to be adjusted, just the To/From fields.

> If that were true, why did he specifically ask for help to "strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails".

What your quote said he asked for help to do is exactly what GP suggested was the only thing he was trying to do.

So, what you say he asked is exactly what you'd expect if he was trying to do only what GP suggested.

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by socialist_coder »

threepipeproblm wrote: post #33
nimbleDT wrote: post #28

Exactly why I thought HN might find this story interesting, the 'we did it reddit!' factor is funny in light of the many times they've gotten things horribly wrong -- the Boston marathon bombing comes to mind. Kind of wish it hadn't been flagged and disappeared from the front page so quickly.

Improperly marking a similar post this morning as a "dupe" didn't work -- https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=threepipeproblm -- so people who don't want to hear this seem to have "flagged" it as off topic? Meanwhile, some recent HN topics that were not flagged as off topic include: * The '80s Public Access Films Produced by a California UFO Cult * Affliction and Salvation: Love Was a Learned Art for Iris Murdoch…

HN loves the establishment. They are getting rich, why would they want to shake things up?

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by williamle8300 »

adamors wrote: post #21
swalsh wrote: post #14

This seems like enough to demonstrate intent (the big thing they couldn't prove previously) is there any reason this isn't enough evidence to open a case by the justice department?

Yes, Obama endorsed HRC.

How does the President get to dictate how the Justice dept rules? The executive and judicial branches are separate

Re: Hillary's IT guy asking Reddit how to cover up emails

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Post by threepipeproblm »

threepipeproblm wrote: post #33
nimbleDT wrote: post #28

Exactly why I thought HN might find this story interesting, the 'we did it reddit!' factor is funny in light of the many times they've gotten things horribly wrong -- the Boston marathon bombing comes to mind. Kind of wish it hadn't been flagged and disappeared from the front page so quickly.

Improperly marking a similar post this morning as a "dupe" didn't work -- https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=threepipeproblm -- so people who don't want to hear this seem to have "flagged" it as off topic? Meanwhile, some recent HN topics that were not flagged as off topic include: * The '80s Public Access Films Produced by a California UFO Cult * Affliction and Salvation: Love Was a Learned Art for Iris Murdoch…

Ah the first person to downvote this has no actual defense of it... I was legitimately asking, open to me having misinterpreted this but I'd like know how
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