Also, don't forget to mark "helpful" the most popular reviews that align with your opinion of HP's current practices.
HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers
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#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a setting to tell your printer to not obnoxiously use color inks to print blacks.
It's not without purpose though. It does it because printing all four colors ("registration") instead of just black makes for a deeper black (if that makes sense). However, you don't want to use 100% registration for text as it can easily eat up your ink/toner. A good compromise if you need deeper blacks is 100% K with a bit of CMY (don't know the percentage). I'm not discarding the idea that printer companies do it…
If you need some inks other than black to make black, why aren't they in the black ink already?
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#253I feel like we have this discussion every week.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if it's not a verified-purchase , it's still counts in Amazon's count of percentage of 1 star reviews.
On principle I hate the idea of encouraging people to submit reviews for products that they haven't purchased. It's a crime worse than time-bombing generic printer cartridges and makes online reviews basically worthless. I don't give a shit about your moral stand against HP. Give me an honest review of a product you own or don't say anything.
It is an honest review of the product, though. If you know for a fact that the particular model of printer is designed to take cartridges with forced expiration dates, then it is about a characteristic of the product which you consider bad enough to rate it 1 start.
This is very different than, hypothetically, going over all HP products in Amazon and giving 1 star because, say, HP sued someone you don't think they should have, or filed taxes in a way you think is fraudulent or clubbed baby seals. It is also different from rating HP laptops badly because of this issue with their printer, for example. It is actually a review about a major flaw in the product that I would be purchasing, and thus relevant to me as a buyer regardless of moral stands of any kind.
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#255In southeast Asia, you can get an Epson L300 tank printer for about $170 USD. Each tank refill costs $10 and lasts for 10,000 pages. This line of printers isn't offered in the US. It's market segmentation. I think it's indicative of the level of oligopoly in the printer industry that they can segment this well and get away with it.
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#256Somebody mentioned Brother printers elsewhere. I replaced my HP laser with a Brother laser a while back (just printing "stuff", not photos) I replaced my black cart on the HP (2600n) with a 3rd party product, and got away with it. However, when I replaced the color carts (one ran out), which I was forced to, since it wouldn't print B&W at all otherwise, the printer detected the alien carts, and immediately refused to…
Here's a tip for Brother printers. When the printer asks you to replace the toner and stops printing, you can override it with a setting. The default setting disables printing until you replace the toner. You can change the setting to keep printing until the toner really runs out.
Forcing you to stop printing is naughty of Brother, but at least there's a setting so you can keep printing—if you're clever enough to find it.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
All you need to do is buy from a business that doesn't depend on fraud. Samsung make very nice and cheap black & white laser printers. I've bought two over the last few years, around $70. I see one on Amazon for $75 that has wifi printing as well), comes with a cartridge that lasted me 2-3 years and some thousands of pages, and replacement cartridges are $60 for branded ones, less than half that for generics. The pri…
Good news! HP just bought Samsung's printer business. http://www.anandtech.com/show/10677/hp-acquire-samsung-print...
Dell makes printers. Black-and-white laser printers from $100, color lasers from $200.
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#258The best way to make a difference against this nastyness realistically available to us is probably the "one star review". And when you do, resist writing 10 paragraphs about all the times HP has ever wronged you or a long story about how much you needed the printout when it refused to print. One star, one sentence. "Expires full inks after only x months forcing you to buy new ones when you don't need them." I know fo…
The short reviews also have another benifit, they seem more factual and reliable. A long emotional rant nearly always looses all credibility with me, even if they had justifiable complaint.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah the problem is that some of them don't allow you to do this anymore. Overall I've started to buy B&W only laser printers and I buy a new printer when the toner runs out. You can find Samsung entry level laser printers with a toner good for 300-500 pages on Amazon for about 30£ on sale that's cheaper than buying a toner. 1st world problems for sure but this is beyond stupid.
The replacement toner is worth buying too, lasts some thousands of pages. I love my cheap Samsung lasers.
I have bad news for you.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10677/hp-acquire-samsung-print...
Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers
#260The best way to make a difference against this nastyness realistically available to us is probably the "one star review". And when you do, resist writing 10 paragraphs about all the times HP has ever wronged you or a long story about how much you needed the printout when it refused to print. One star, one sentence. "Expires full inks after only x months forcing you to buy new ones when you don't need them." I know fo…
Normally, I loathe one-star amazon and yelp reviews. They are almost always knee-jerk reactions to some function not working perfectly, or, more often, the consumer felt disrespected and didn't receive the proper service, even though the product or food is flawless. However, there's an exception to everything. Just this week, my printer crapped out a week after inserting 3rd party ink cartridges. I just thought that…
Most one-star reviews I see are for anything _but_ the product: "delivery was late", "box was damaged", "came with wrong power cord".