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HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by tamana »

kreitje wrote: post #125
auxym wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I had an epson printer that refused to print B&W documents until I replaced the cyan cartridge. Fixed the problem temporarily by getting cheap chinese cartridge off ebay, but Epson is now very much on my boycott list.

I just had a Lexmark tell me cyan, yellow and magenta were low, which was fine since the document I was printing was black text with 2 exceptions for arrows where to sign in red. It printed all the text in orange and the 2 arrows were a perfect red.

There's a setting to tell your printer to not obnoxiously use color inks to print blacks.

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Post by wyclif »

dsr_ wrote: post #104
raphaelh wrote: post #88

So what is a good brand of laser printers that work well under Linux and accepts unofficial toners?

Brother. Look for: - BRScript3 (their clone of PostScript) - ethernet port - a "D" on the end means it can print on both sides, duplexing. It's slower but oh so much more convenient. Printers with all these features start around $100.

This is great actionable info, thanks! I just googled around for printers with these features, and learned something I didn't know.

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Post by wildmusings »

Spooky23 wrote: post #138
denzell wrote: post #24

how is this legal? It's akin to a car shutting down if a non genuine part is used.

Tesla is already doing this, iirc. As self-driving cars become a thing, you'll see way more of this, "for safety".

In the case of automated multi-ton death machines moving at high-speed near other people, that seems totally reasonable. You shouldn't be allowed to tinker with your automated car and risk everyone else's lives.

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Post by tamana »

Steeeve wrote: post #70

I've had nothing but great success using third party ink with Epson printers. Every two-three years I buy a new epson printer and either a continuous ink system or refillable cartridges. I never worry about the kids printing too much or the print cartridge getting dry and clogging. Epson gets used a lot as a base in the third party space - for things like T-shirt printers and other textile based printing. The print h…

Why do you buy so many printers?

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Post by wfo »

rayiner wrote: post #153
petra wrote: post #148

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Even if it's not a verified-purchase , it's still counts in Amazon's count of percentage of 1 star reviews.

On principle I hate the idea of encouraging people to submit reviews for products that they haven't purchased. It's a crime worse than time-bombing generic printer cartridges and makes online reviews basically worthless. I don't give a shit about your moral stand against HP. Give me an honest review of a product you own or don't say anything.

I absolutely agree.

But nearly half of Amazon reviews these days are paid advertisements by the seller in my experience.

And while I think you should never write a review for a product you've never used, if you've:

1. Supported or used one at work

2. Had to make purchasing decisions at work, done research, and chosen a competing product

3. Helped a friend or family member with one

Then go right ahead.

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Post by quirkafleeg »

rayiner wrote: post #153
petra wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even if it's not a verified-purchase , it's still counts in Amazon's count of percentage of 1 star reviews.

On principle I hate the idea of encouraging people to submit reviews for products that they haven't purchased. It's a crime worse than time-bombing generic printer cartridges and makes online reviews basically worthless. I don't give a shit about your moral stand against HP. Give me an honest review of a product you own or don't say anything.

> It's a crime worse than time-bombing generic printer cartridges

Alerting people to a scam is worse than the scam itself?

> makes online reviews basically worthless

How is it worthless if it's stating important, relevant facts about a product?

Basically you're saying unless you've personally lost out by scumbag practices, don't try and protect anyone else from falling victim.

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Post by tamana »

wildmusings wrote: post #164
Spooky23 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla is already doing this, iirc. As self-driving cars become a thing, you'll see way more of this, "for safety".

In the case of automated multi-ton death machines moving at high-speed near other people, that seems totally reasonable. You shouldn't be allowed to tinker with your automated car and risk everyone else's lives.

No, it's not reasonable. Government should set standard, free market competes to follow start dates with best quality and lowest cost.

Wht should Tesla be able to prevent me from replacing a bad Tesla part with a better/safer third-party part?

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Post by tomcorrigan »

FullMtlAlcoholc wrote: post #162

I'm not a legal expert, but I want to believe that there is some law preventing manufacturers from sabotaging their own products in order to extract more coin from your consumers. I want to believe...

The conduct described in the article is definitely unlawful in Australia.

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Post by gmazza »

Nullabillity wrote: post #23
m3adow wrote: post #16

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How is the Linux support for Epson printers? The big thing for HP is their good support for Linux.

"Good" Linux support means being able to just download a PPD and shove it into CUPS. AFAIK HP is the only one that requires their own crappy GUI on top.

The only time I had to use (admittedly annoying) HP GUI installer is for scanner part of HP CM1015 MFP. Printer part of the same MFP worked fine with just normal CUPS.
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