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HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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post #106

Is there any legitimate reason to be buying an inkjet versus a laser? I would personally never buy an inkjet again in my life regardless of the brand.

If you need occasional scanning, its the way to go. I buy a cheap all in one every two years when target/Walmart clears them out. Last year I bought 3 for $20/EA.

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post #59

I think this calls for a cheap open source printer to be made. Nothing complex is needed initially, just black and white with low running costs. In reality, any liquid that stains the paper of a given consistency should be fine. It shouldn't be costing this much to replace ink.

Perhaps ink?

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post #106

Is there any legitimate reason to be buying an inkjet versus a laser? I would personally never buy an inkjet again in my life regardless of the brand.

Yes there is a reason: To print high-quality photos.

I have an ink jet for photos (admittedly rarely needed these days) and a black&white laser for everything else.

Also, part of the problem is that lot of people don't realize how expensive it is to run an ink jet and how massively cheaper a laser is in the long run. The average person needing a printing goes to the store and sees a laser for around $200 and an ink jet for $49, and buys the ink jet, thinking it's a better deal.

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post #16
post #7

There's the Epson Eco-Tank series. Ink is in four bottles at the side of the machine, good for about 4000-6000 pages. Refill with Epson ink bottles or (a bit more messily) from bulk ink. The printer costs about $279. You do have to clean the print heads occasionally. That's the price of long life print heads.

How is the Linux support for Epson printers? The big thing for HP is their good support for Linux.

Just check on https://www.openprinting.org/printers to make sure whatever you want to get is supported.

Generally, I have less problems with printers like the XP-320 than HP printers because they are just download the PPD -> good to go. No fucking with HPLIP or an entire software stack around it.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW I had an epson printer that refused to print B&W documents until I replaced the cyan cartridge. Fixed the problem temporarily by getting cheap chinese cartridge off ebay, but Epson is now very much on my boycott list.

I just had a Lexmark tell me cyan, yellow and magenta were low, which was fine since the document I was printing was black text with 2 exceptions for arrows where to sign in red. It printed all the text in orange and the 2 arrows were a perfect red.

Don't forget to choose black and white mode in print job settings.

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post #75
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Laser sucks for printing photos.

Yeah but if you want documents and shelf life (toner doesn't dry out in a year) then lasers might be better for you.

I think I'm on year three for my laser printer colour toner cartridges.

I did have to swap out the black after two years maybe 2 1/2 but I ran it for six months with errors and warnings and pleading.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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post #6

I haven't owned and HP printer in a while, but this article will stop me from making an HP printer my next purchase if and when I need one. What a dirty, cheap tactic by HP! They'll fire some low-wage earner worker and a mid-level manager over this, while the real culprit stays at his job I'm sure. Definitely class-action, and even criminal, no? Consumer fraud, deception? Third-party replacements are running fine in…

Canon hates Linux and is basically the Broadcom of printers there, I wouldn't advise ever supporting them.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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post #59

I think this calls for a cheap open source printer to be made. Nothing complex is needed initially, just black and white with low running costs. In reality, any liquid that stains the paper of a given consistency should be fine. It shouldn't be costing this much to replace ink.

We need custom ROMs for printers. Like we have OpenWRT for routers.

One thing I've wondered about is why there seem to be various "hacking scenes" for other electronics like routers, game consoles, mobiles, and now even some 3D printers, but seemingly nothing for regular 2D printers; despite the fact that the hardware costs are extremely low. Given all the anti-user security those other devices have yet are bypassed by such skilled hackers, a printer may be absolutely trivial in comparison.

Perhaps people are just not so interested in printers, or the thought of getting ink and paper everywhere puts them off?

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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post #71

Such behaviour is the reason I threw out a perfectly working HP OfficeJet one day and will never buy a single HP printer in my life. In the OfficeJet in question I only used genuine cartridges, but every few year it would stop receiving black and white faxes because (the nearly full) color cartidge was passing its expiry date - forcing me to throw away the full color cartridge and buying a new one.

Join the club. At my office we had an OfficeJet, and it "expired" a printhead. It won't even allow you to SCAN unless the printhead is replaced. No more HP for me. Never again.

They also print advertising without your knowledge.

http://www.dailytech.com/HPs+Web+Connected+Printers+May+Prin...

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