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HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by vlehto »

woliveirajr wrote: post #21

Laser OKI color printer isn't different. Each toner (CMYK) has a life based on printed pages and stop working even if there's toner inside. No third part supplier, because the printer won't recognize it. And it's useless torefill it if you don't change some chip in each toner. And then the fusor will also stop after some number of pages, no matter if the quality was still good. To replace it you spend more than you p…

Life based on printed pages would be OK. If you actually print the number pages you promise, I can compare the total costs of cartridges and printers.

But I think some models also have timer. After 6 months or year, the printer starts to complain that the ink has "dried up". To prohibit you from saving up that unicorn blood by printing less.

By banned list is HP, Canon and I'm very cautious about Samsung.

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Post by emp_zealoth »

m3adow wrote: post #16
Animats wrote: post #7

There's the Epson Eco-Tank series. Ink is in four bottles at the side of the machine, good for about 4000-6000 pages. Refill with Epson ink bottles or (a bit more messily) from bulk ink. The printer costs about $279. You do have to clean the print heads occasionally. That's the price of long life print heads.

How is the Linux support for Epson printers? The big thing for HP is their good support for Linux.

How is the support good? I've bought a pro laserjet and the wireless wont work (bug is years old), manual duplex won't work, the print jobs like to go disappear into some limbo every now and then...

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by gm-conspiracy »

reustle wrote: post #15
Sanddancer wrote: post #2

I wouldn't doubt it for a second. Printer makers use the razor/razorblade model for consumables, where the printer's dirt cheap, but the ink costs an arm and a leg. This is just the latest tactic for getting people to go OEM only. At this point, I long for the good old days, when Canon embraced 3rd party ink vendors. Canon's cartridges were cheap because the print heads were a separate, replaceable, item, and the thi…

I haven't really thought about it recently, but (parts of) Asia seems to have this whole printer ink thing figured out. Just about every printer I see in Thailand has the tubes coming out which go to bottles similar to this [1]. There are little refill stations in malls, and that seems to be the standard. No overpriced OEM cartridges, just a straight ink reservoir. [1] http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bJKz4lWVpfo/S9p02XqXZqI/AA…

..and they have modified food-grade inks so you can print on latte foam or biscuits/cookies.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Factory-offered-edible-ink-P...

I am assuming it is Epson parts, based on the 1440 dpi dimension

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by chris_wot »

supercoder wrote: post #46
chris_wot wrote: post #12

If this is affecting printers in Australia, then HP are going to learn a very costly lesson in ethics. The ACCC will have to do an investigation, but the instant they confirm this has occurred they will face stiff fines for third line forcing and anti-competitive behaviour distorting the market.

There are no fines large enough the ACCC can serve that will stop them from this practice. ACCC is pretty toothless again big companies like this.

I dunno, they stopped Apple and HP from selling "extended warranties".

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Post by scotu »

Well, on my mom Windows 10 pc hp software asked her if the cartridge was pirate (unofficial?). Well, actually it was original, the only thing is that I'm keeping an empty color cartridge instead of replacing it since I only use black... I'm wondering wtf happened there

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by DavideNL »

Slightly offtopic, but, I've been using a HP printer for the past years (Photosmart D7360) and am also VERY annoyed, one example: whenever one of my color cartridges is past it's expiry date i can't print in black and white. Even though the black cartridge is brand new. I first have to go buy a new color cartridge (which i don't use) and then i can print in black again. The warning message says something like "if you print with an outdated cartridge it may damage the printer".

seriously, will never buy a HP printer again.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by bArray »

I think this calls for a cheap open source printer to be made. Nothing complex is needed initially, just black and white with low running costs. In reality, any liquid that stains the paper of a given consistency should be fine. It shouldn't be costing this much to replace ink.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Post by throwanem »

tluyben2 wrote: post #50

Not trolling, but why do you use printers? I haven't used paper for 5 odd years now. The gov here (Spain) gives me tons of paper; I photograph it and then leave it and have them print it out when needed. Outside that I have not needed paper since the ipad. Why do other people?

Cheaper to hang photo prints than iPads.
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