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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by OJFord » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 2:44 PM UTC

allemagne wrote: post #57

woolinsilver wrote: post #35

Only available in the US. 95% of people do not live in the US. I do not live in the US. No-one I know lives in the US.

I can imagine plenty of valid reasons for not being able to ship a brand new product outside of the US. The author didn't promise anyone that at least 6% or more of the global population could immediately order this product or anything. In any case, most of HN probably lives in the US.

    > In any case, most of HN probably lives in the US.

I agree with your main point, it's not up to us where someone sells their product, but I'm not at all sure that most HN users live in the US; I don't have any more evidence than you, I would just assume most are outside.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by M_Grey » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 3:05 PM UTC

unfunco wrote: post #228

M_Grey wrote: post #222

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Uh, Jack, Jack, listen... tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?

Please don't let this place become reddit.

I take your meaning, but that seems like a very unkind way of reinforcing what a basket full of downvotes already taught me.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by Johnny555 » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 3:27 PM UTC

kbart wrote: post #233

Johnny555 wrote: post #211

Do you have warnings on the tube to tell people that the toothpaste is toxic to children? 80 mg of caffeine at 90 "servings" per tube is 7200mg. The LD50 for caffeine is 150mg/kg, so each tube is enough to potentially kill two 20kb toddlers.

"two 20kb toddlers." Is that a mistype or do you really measure babies in kilobits?

That's kilobabies

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by freehunter » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:03 PM UTC

meric wrote: post #259

mikekchar wrote: post #244

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Sorry man, I'm old. I need the caffeine in order to need the toilet paper, not the other way around ;-)

Brush with the caffeinated toothpaste, get a boost with the caffeinated toilet paper.

Gotta re-up.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by undersuit » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

xyzzy123 wrote: post #204

undersuit wrote: post #114

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If you are afraid of your children eating dangerous amounts of something from a tube, look no further than normal toothpaste.

I believe this statement is short-sighted, and I would strongly recommend child-proof packaging for this product. If a child eats a tube of toothpaste, it's not great for them[1], but eating a significant amount of caffeinated toothpaste would most likely kill them. This is a problem because people don't normally store and secure toothpaste the way they do bleach or pesticides, and also because this product is formul…

>I believe this statement is short-sighted

I'm not saying this caffeine toothpaste is safer than fluoride containing toothpaste just that toothpaste can still cause harm. From what I've read of caffeine overdoses your suggestion of a child-proof packaging is a very good one.

A tube of toothpaste might have enough fluoride to kill 30-50 mice, but not necessarily a child. Eating a whole tube of toothpaste is excessive and you should probably seek medical attention if your child does so. The adults who took part in this study[1] should be able to replicate the experiments by eating two tubes of toothpaste.

[1] https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb:@te...

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by DiabloD3 » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:15 PM UTC

infinityplus1 wrote: post #263

simcop2387 wrote: post #232

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My guess would be that it's too hard (Mohs scale) and erodes the enamel. Hydrated silica is essentially sand

So what is the recommended toothpaste? Any ideas?

Either make your own with coconut oil, baking soda, and bentonite clay, or buy a premade one like Earthpaste.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by DiabloD3 » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:23 PM UTC

schwap wrote: post #161

Drdrdrq wrote: post #61

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Crazies or people who actually care about environment? Fluorinating water must be one of the least efficient ways of doing this.

> Crazies or people who actually care about environment? The environment??? Fluoride, like many minerals, is naturally occurring in many water sources, just not (all) of the ones that are used for drinking water. Additionally, the concentration of fluoride for this purpose is minuscule (0.7 mg/L according to Health Canada).

This comment is why you absolutely must test well water every 2-3 years.

Up here in Maine we have a pretty bad fluoride issue in some areas, and a lot of people are not testing their well water, and ending up with fluoride poisoning.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by freehunter » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:27 PM UTC

kakarot wrote: post #187

bduerst wrote: post #158

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It is when tooth decay is a major public health concern.

Actually no, it still isn't.

If you can't afford insurance, the government makes sure you get the health care you need to stay alive and healthy. So the government has a vested interest in making sure people stay healthy, because if a poor person gets sick, the government is paying for their healthcare. Not everyone brushes their teeth, not everyone can afford toothpaste. Everyone has to drink water, though, and fluoride in water causes no real health problems. It's a very quick win for public health, because otherwise the government would be paying to replace poor people's teeth.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by freehunter » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:33 PM UTC

efa wrote: post #268

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #127

Is this for real? I understand people want their caffeine hit but toothpaste seem a bit overboard. If you can't live without it, why not just buy the pills and take a pill each day. https://www.amazon.com/Natrol-Caffeine-200mg-Tablets-100-Cou... Careful, caffeine can be fatal. I'm surprised it's not regulated.

Yeah, this is bizarre to me. Kind of like adding an mp3 player to a word processor. Toothpaste has a purpose. If you want caffeine have coffee, tea, Red Bull, 5 hour energy, Monster, expresso beans, caffeine gum, or one of the million other ways to get caffeine.

Subtract one thing from your list.

"Why do you need caffeine gum? If you want caffeine have coffee, tea, Red Bull, 5 hour energy, Monster, expresso beans, or one of the million other ways to get caffeine."

"Why do you need Red Bull? If you want caffeine have coffee, tea, 5 hour energy, Monster, expresso beans, or one of the million other ways to get caffeine."

"Why do you need tea? If you want caffeine have coffee, 5 hour energy, Monster, expresso beans, or one of the million other ways to get caffeine."

"Why do you need coffee? If you want caffeine have 5 hour energy, Monster, expresso beans, or one of the million other ways to get caffeine."

So on and so forth. Why do you need one more way to get caffeine in your system? Why not?

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by freehunter » Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 4:40 PM UTC

carlob wrote: post #262

The price comparison is a bit disingenuous IMHO: coffee is $3 only if you buy a latte at Starbucks. Homemade coffee is probably less than a tenth of that even if you use capsules, and a filter coffee can be as cheap as $1. You can also buy 20 g of caffeine in pills on amazon for around $8 compared to your 7.2 g for $15. Why would you compare with something that is effectively the cost of sitting down for half an hour…

Why do people buy coffee instead of caffeine pills? Why do people buy Red Bull instead of coffee? Why do people buy 5 Hour Energy instead of Red Bull?

People like choice.