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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by tptacek »

samstave wrote: post #179
samstave wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patrick, I used a random sampling of things... relax. How would you mandate pen-tests for every router to eliminate your job? Wouldnt happen, huh? Who gives a shit. My point is that if we are so concerned about one aspect of health, then why is "kids need good teeth" the only fucking vector we are addressing?

@tptacek: That is the second time I have called you Patrick... I have no idea why! I apologize. My whole life everyone has called me Steve, my name is Sam.... Anyway - I dont know why I see your username and equate it with Patrick. How do I reset mental variables?

What works for me is closing the screen, putting some headphones on, turning on some music, and going for a walk.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by frozenport »

nappy wrote: post #29
BorgHunter wrote: post #6

> Power Toothpaste does not contain Fluoride. We know many of you don't want fluoride in your toothpaste. This seems bizarre to me. People don't want fluoride in their toothpaste? Why not? Dentists seem pretty unanimous that everyone should brush twice a day with fluoride toothpaste.

I wrote a longer comment about this below, but the essential reason is: if I made fluoride a product requirement, I wouldn't have gotten to a release. It would have added a huge expense. Additionally, fluoride is much more important for children. As enamel is forming, fluoride interacts with it and strengthens it. Adults need far less (threshold dose effect) and for most people in the United States, they likely get e…

Could you do something clever like mix this isn't regular toothpaste? Perhaps by having a special dual tube, toothpaste holder?

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by stanmancan »

samstave wrote: post #167
patrick8 wrote: post #163

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I find it funny that no one yet has called you on your bullshit: Who the fuck is John Haymaker? There was no Haymaker CEO of Alcoa. You quote this person, and you don't even know their first name? Sounds legit.

He was president of ALCOA in the mid-80s -- I cant find him online - but I posted a link to his son's profile page who is an architect. John Haymaker, JR. I also make mention of my dads other best friend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Herrington who happens to have a wiki page.... So, I dont know what to say about the fact that John SR doesnt have a page about him online as he was head of ALCOA in ~1985... no…

Not sure who you're thinking of. Maybe it was a weird childhood memory. But based on Alcoa's history page, nobody with that name was the CEO during the 80's.

Alcoa CEO's during the 1980s [1]

W.H. Krome George 1975 - 1983

Charlie Parry 1983 - 1987

Paul O’Neill 1987 - 1999

[1] https://www.alcoa.com/usa/en/alcoa_usa/history.asp

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by jondubois »

"... We made Power Toothpaste so that when you wake up, you can make your dreams a reality" - This text is placed right next to a blurry photo of the founders.

It's very 90s... Cheesy. Our generation is far too cynical for that kind of message.

This toothpaste won't make your dreams come true. If anything, it will keep you up all night long and prevent you from dreaming altogether.

I do like the tagline "Get a rush while you brush." though.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by jolux »

samstave wrote: post #172
tptacek wrote: post #160

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In case this is helpful: things like "WTF?!?!?!" aren't helping.

WTF am I supposed to be helping. Reading comprehension apparently fails this audience. so yeah. Fuck that. Read a quote. Did I say it no, hence we have the term in english called "quote" - we even have fricken literal characters on our keyboards and in our lexicon called "quotes" Let me try this for you: "Don't kill the messenger" -- SamStave Kill me for that.

Well the fact that you are diverting discussion of the content of your quote through claiming that quoting it was not an endorsement of its sentiment -- a claim I still find specious at best under these circumstances -- seems to suggest that you are not confident in its validity. Is this the case? Because that's understandable, and we'd get a lot further in this discussion through recognizing it rather than not and continuing to avoid saying whether or not you actually believe what you quoted.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by wooster »

samstave wrote: post #167
patrick8 wrote: post #163

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I find it funny that no one yet has called you on your bullshit: Who the fuck is John Haymaker? There was no Haymaker CEO of Alcoa. You quote this person, and you don't even know their first name? Sounds legit.

He was president of ALCOA in the mid-80s -- I cant find him online - but I posted a link to his son's profile page who is an architect. John Haymaker, JR. I also make mention of my dads other best friend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Herrington who happens to have a wiki page.... So, I dont know what to say about the fact that John SR doesnt have a page about him online as he was head of ALCOA in ~1985... no…

There is a George T. Haymaker Jr. who "served as an Executive Vice President of Alumax Inc. from 1984 to 1986 and Vice President of International Operations at Alcoa Inc. from 1982 to 1984" [0].

His profile at Genstar Capital includes what seems like a recent photo [1].

Is that who you're thinking of?

[0] http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?p...

[1] http://www.gencap.com/team/george_haymaker.php

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by samstave »

patrick8 wrote: post #175
samstave wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was president of ALCOA in the mid-80s -- I cant find him online - but I posted a link to his son's profile page who is an architect. John Haymaker, JR. I also make mention of my dads other best friend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Herrington who happens to have a wiki page.... So, I dont know what to say about the fact that John SR doesnt have a page about him online as he was head of ALCOA in ~1985... no…

Yeah, get bent dude. It sort of is your job to prove who you're quoting or get called out on it. The nearest I can tell is the guy you're talking about is George Haymaker, and if that is who it is, he was CEO of Kaiser, not Alcoa. But when you do things like this: "FFS; I am relaying a quote I heard from the head of fucking ALCOA! y'all motherfuckers know what ALCOA is? and how far their reach is...." That detail mat…

Hmm... You may be correct - and I apologize for my failing memory! I was freaking twelve when I heard him say this...

George may be correct - I'll have to ask my dad now.

While people have posted the listed CEOs of ALCOA in the 80s - I know that for certain he was head of ALCOA. My dad built his freaking house and I worked on it with John Haymaker (who my dad was required to employ during the build of his house on the Truckee River in Tahoe so his kid (the one who is now an architect) could get some build experience)...

But I stand by my comment... those statements were made.

Here it is:

"Mr. Haymaker was Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Kaiser Aluminum Corporation from January 1994 through December 1999, and was Non-Executive Chairman of that company from October 2001 until July 2006. Prior to joining Kaiser, he served in executive positions for Alcoa Inc., and Alumax Inc."

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by samstave »

stanmancan wrote: post #183
samstave wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was president of ALCOA in the mid-80s -- I cant find him online - but I posted a link to his son's profile page who is an architect. John Haymaker, JR. I also make mention of my dads other best friend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Herrington who happens to have a wiki page.... So, I dont know what to say about the fact that John SR doesnt have a page about him online as he was head of ALCOA in ~1985... no…

Not sure who you're thinking of. Maybe it was a weird childhood memory. But based on Alcoa's history page, nobody with that name was the CEO during the 80's. Alcoa CEO's during the 1980s [1] W.H. Krome George 1975 - 1983 Charlie Parry 1983 - 1987 Paul O’Neill 1987 - 1999 [1] https://www.alcoa.com/usa/en/alcoa_usa/history.asp

>"Mr. Haymaker was Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Kaiser Aluminum Corporation from January 1994 through December 1999, and was Non-Executive Chairman of that company from October 2001 until July 2006. Prior to joining Kaiser, he served in executive positions for Alcoa Inc., and Alumax Inc."

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by nikolay »

zyxley wrote: post #180
nikolay wrote: post #88

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Well, if you're okay with putting excess amounts of chemicals on your skin that are targeting your teeth although you may get enough from green tea, I'm not, and many others aren't either. I bought a chlorine filter for my shower, and all my dandruff and skin itching issues have disappeared, so, call it a conspiracy theory or whatever, but you can't beat the facts.

Anecdotes are not data.

I'm not a computer; I'm a human being, and I apply heuristics all the time. Maybe you're not. Anyway, data can be forged, and has been forged numerous times driven by corporate and political interest.

What I do works for me, and works well - I look for fluoride-free products - you can stick with using agricultural waste in your water supply, but I stay off it!

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