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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by schwap »

Drdrdrq wrote: post #61
monknomo wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're lucky enough to live somewhere where the crazies haven't defluorinated your water because "you're polluting our pure water with chemicals..."

Crazies or people who actually care about environment? Fluorinating water must be one of the least efficient ways of doing this.

> Crazies or people who actually care about environment?

The environment???

Fluoride, like many minerals, is naturally occurring in many water sources, just not (all) of the ones that are used for drinking water. Additionally, the concentration of fluoride for this purpose is minuscule (0.7 mg/L according to Health Canada).

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by auganov »

samstave wrote: post #117

I was down voted to hell for saying this in the past, but I'll share it again: One of my dads best friends was head of ALCOA, John Haymaker: Quote: "aluminum production produces fluoride acid - a substance so toxic that we cannot dispose of it... So we began fluoridation of the water because the only place we can store it is in your liver" And for those that toe the line with dental benefit BS: if the government was…

Fortification of cornmeal, grits, rice, and white flour is required by law in the US. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/7/1431c

For more examples of interventions recommended by the WHO take a look at: http://www.who.int/elena/intervention/en/ especially the fortification section.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by patrick8 »

samstave wrote: post #117

I was down voted to hell for saying this in the past, but I'll share it again: One of my dads best friends was head of ALCOA, John Haymaker: Quote: "aluminum production produces fluoride acid - a substance so toxic that we cannot dispose of it... So we began fluoridation of the water because the only place we can store it is in your liver" And for those that toe the line with dental benefit BS: if the government was…

I find it funny that no one yet has called you on your bullshit: Who the fuck is John Haymaker? There was no Haymaker CEO of Alcoa. You quote this person, and you don't even know their first name? Sounds legit.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by generic_user »

generic_user wrote: post #147
generic_user wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be some hardcore pro fluoride fanatics on here. Never the less I will stand by you with my no fluoride Tom's Toothpaste and fight the good fight.

Down votes for no fluoride toothpaste? Good grief...

I use to brush my teeth with salt for a year or two. Looks like I could probably start back up with a year or two supply for free and save some cash.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by alfon »

gmac wrote: post #99
antoineMoPa wrote: post #87

Brushing before breakfast seems like a weird idea to me. The mint flavor of the toothpaste would ruin the flavor of what I'd eat and I would need to brush again after. Did all of HN stop eating breakfast after this post? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11753668

I believe it's generally the soapy toothpaste ingredients (sodium lauryl sulfate) that mess with your mouth chemistry and make things taste weird for a while afterwards, not mainly the mint flavour. Other kinds of toothpaste (e.g. I sometimes use an aloe vera based one) don't have this problem. And my understanding of the before vs after breakfast teeth-brushing debate is that it doesn't that much matter which you do…

So before and after?

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by drdeca »

generic_user wrote: post #147
generic_user wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There seems to be some hardcore pro fluoride fanatics on here. Never the less I will stand by you with my no fluoride Tom's Toothpaste and fight the good fight.

Down votes for no fluoride toothpaste? Good grief...

I'm not sure, but I would guess that the "fight the good fight" part of the post might have contributed to the downvotes.

Just a guess though.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by samstave »

patrick8 wrote: post #163
samstave wrote: post #117

I was down voted to hell for saying this in the past, but I'll share it again: One of my dads best friends was head of ALCOA, John Haymaker: Quote: "aluminum production produces fluoride acid - a substance so toxic that we cannot dispose of it... So we began fluoridation of the water because the only place we can store it is in your liver" And for those that toe the line with dental benefit BS: if the government was…

I find it funny that no one yet has called you on your bullshit: Who the fuck is John Haymaker? There was no Haymaker CEO of Alcoa. You quote this person, and you don't even know their first name? Sounds legit.

He was president of ALCOA in the mid-80s -- I cant find him online - but I posted a link to his son's profile page who is an architect. John Haymaker, JR. I also make mention of my dads other best friend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._Herrington who happens to have a wiki page....

So, I dont know what to say about the fact that John SR doesnt have a page about him online as he was head of ALCOA in ~1985...

not my job to prove shit to the internet.... if you dont like my quote - then move on and dont attack me for it.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by girvo »

personlurking wrote: post #128
nappy wrote: post #4

I invented the world’s first caffeinated toothpaste - get a rush while you brush! I’m a serial entrepreneur, YCW16. Though it is a simple idea, I went through at least 60 formula iterations before I got the flavor chemistry right. This toothpaste seriously works. I actually had to lower the caffeine content from the original version. Our toothpaste gives you a quick caffeine boost that works as soon as you start brus…

> Our toothpaste gives you a quick caffeine boost that works as soon as you start brushing, even faster than coffee. I read that caffeine in coffee form takes 15-20 min to be felt by the user. I'm curious how the toothpaste form works on the spot.

Sublingual administration of certain chemicals allows for they bypass of first-pass metabolism; basically going from the thin membranes in your mouth directly into your bloodstream.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by samstave »

tptacek wrote: post #155
samstave wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thats fair... But the sentiment I have is the same: on the one hand, I quoted some questionable logic from head of alcoa - then I asked a fair question: "if the government is so concerned with my health, why is all other healthcare not free/forced upon me???" As another user pointed out, Iodized salt is mandated. How about other medical practices? Why are mammograms not free and forced upon all those with breasts? Pr…

How would you "mandate" a prostate exam? You can't exactly secret away a prostate exam in someone's breakfast serial.

Patrick,

I used a random sampling of things... relax.

How would you mandate pen-tests for every router to eliminate your job? Wouldnt happen, huh?

Who gives a shit. My point is that if we are so concerned about one aspect of health, then why is "kids need good teeth" the only fucking vector we are addressing?

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Post by eric_h »

riboflava wrote: post #151
personlurking wrote: post #128

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> Our toothpaste gives you a quick caffeine boost that works as soon as you start brushing, even faster than coffee. I read that caffeine in coffee form takes 15-20 min to be felt by the user. I'm curious how the toothpaste form works on the spot.

Placebo effect.

I disagree - psychoactive substances applied to the gum are absorbed into the blood steam much more rapidly than those ingested.
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