I've been waiting to see a neurologist for a serious and worsening vision problem since May. For those keeping track, that's four and a half months. So between these high drug prices and low healthcare availability, why exactly are we so afraid of single payer again?
EpiPen Maker Quietly Steers Effort That Could Protect Its Price
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#72And what does NYT expect him do to ? Open a charity, raise a kickstarter to provide free EpiPens ? I hope he makes a fortune and inspires more to come up with those kind of drugs.
Her. We expect her to be out of a job when healthcare becomes socialized, then she can move into the financial sector and rip people off there.
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#73I've been waiting to see a neurologist for a serious and worsening vision problem since May. For those keeping track, that's four and a half months. So between these high drug prices and low healthcare availability, why exactly are we so afraid of single payer again?
How does single payer create an incentive for increasing the neurologist supply?
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#74How can any article about this issue not mention the word "patent" anywhere? Why is a 1970s technology still under patent? Patents are supposed to allow recouping of R & D costs, not grant an effectively permanent monopoly that can be sold over and over again until someone greedy enough does the inevitable – if we grant that sort of long-lived monopoly, what else can we possibly expect to happen? Reform the broken pa…
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This. Exactly This. I am sick of hearing "oh you just pay $20 co-pay". No we don't. The real cost is much more and these pharmas and insurance companies know it. I know because I paid it for a family of 4. It costs $1500/Month for a decent plan that does not have high "out of pocket" costs (Read capped at $5000). So you pay $1500 per month and in worst case scenario, you can still pay $5000 out of pocket for a year I…
Transparent medical pricing is not possible so long as hospitals have an obligation to treat sick people whether or not they can pay. Hospitals heavily cross subsidize between insured, uninsured, and Medicare/Medicaid patients. As long as we put expectations on doctors and hospitals that compel them to do that, they cannot provide transparent pricing.
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How much does your insurance plan cost you per year? If your employer pays it, ask them how much they have to pay. Part of the reason it is so expensive is because of monopolistic pricing on many drugs and treatments. You are paying way more than $100 Also you have to buy more than one because they expire.
You don't need to ask, it's on your W2.
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Transparent medical pricing is not possible so long as hospitals have an obligation to treat sick people whether or not they can pay. Hospitals heavily cross subsidize between insured, uninsured, and Medicare/Medicaid patients. As long as we put expectations on doctors and hospitals that compel them to do that, they cannot provide transparent pricing.
It is not possible in the current setup, yes. But if there was no insurance company to deal with for little things like X-Ray, that's the question. Why is transparent pricing so difficult for a hospital management to come up with if they don't have to answer to an insurance company OR even the Govt. for that matter ? Private Hospitals are mostly run like a business anyway so why not this part ? The status quo is not…
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How does single payer create an incentive for increasing the neurologist supply?
By turning healthcare into a humanitarian mission instead of a business venture. My local clinic is for-profit and found that it made better business sense to only have the most rudimentary neurology department possible since it tends to be expensive. Instead they focus on their financial bread and butter like flu shots and annual checkups.
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It is not possible in the current setup, yes. But if there was no insurance company to deal with for little things like X-Ray, that's the question. Why is transparent pricing so difficult for a hospital management to come up with if they don't have to answer to an insurance company OR even the Govt. for that matter ? Private Hospitals are mostly run like a business anyway so why not this part ? The status quo is not…
Are we going to allow doctors and hospitals to turn away anyone who can't pay the advertised rates? Like we allow every other business to do? And will we require Medicare and Medicaid to pay those advertised rates, without the discounts they currently get? Jose are the things that force cross-subsidization.
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This. Exactly This. I am sick of hearing "oh you just pay $20 co-pay". No we don't. The real cost is much more and these pharmas and insurance companies know it. I know because I paid it for a family of 4. It costs $1500/Month for a decent plan that does not have high "out of pocket" costs (Read capped at $5000). So you pay $1500 per month and in worst case scenario, you can still pay $5000 out of pocket for a year I…
Transparent medical pricing is not possible so long as hospitals have an obligation to treat sick people whether or not they can pay. Hospitals heavily cross subsidize between insured, uninsured, and Medicare/Medicaid patients. As long as we put expectations on doctors and hospitals that compel them to do that, they cannot provide transparent pricing.