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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Do you have warnings on the tube to tell people that the toothpaste is toxic to children? 80 mg of caffeine at 90 "servings" per tube is 7200mg. The LD50 for caffeine is 150mg/kg, so each tube is enough to potentially kill two 20kb toddlers.

Yes, we have a prominent warning on both the tube and the box that reads, "WARNING: For use by adults 18 years and older only. Keep away from children." Additionally, the tube comes shipped with a silver foil tamper-proof seal.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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You are being attacked?

Aggressively debated then :-) I dont give a shit - but jesus, one quotes another from memory and shitstorm ensues... :) Whatever.

No one is attacking you personally. A lot of people read HN for insightful or evidence backed commentary and the voting mechanism is there to maintain this quality. No one can quote your story and retain any credibility -to a third party relating your story sounds like this: "A dude in a web discussion forum claimed that a man who, based on his childhood memories, was a CEO at Alcor, said that...". It has degenerated to a gossip - something that is readily available elswhere. High quality diacussion, on the other hand, is hard to come by.

It's okay to relate anecdotal experience - some these type of comments are really good - but the style in the comment should then reflect the fact that the claim cannot be validated in any concrete way.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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post #212

Do you have warnings on the tube to tell people that the toothpaste is toxic to children? 80 mg of caffeine at 90 "servings" per tube is 7200mg. The LD50 for caffeine is 150mg/kg, so each tube is enough to potentially kill two 20kb toddlers.

Yes, we have a prominent warning on both the tube and the box that reads, "WARNING: For use by adults 18 years and older only. Keep away from children." Additionally, the tube comes shipped with a silver foil tamper-proof seal.

No child proof cap? Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen given that most people keep toothpaste in their bathroom and don't take extraordinary care to keep it away from children as they do with other toxic products. (floridated toothpaste is also hazardous to children, but much less toxic than a tube with over 7g of caffeine)

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aggressively debated then :-) I dont give a shit - but jesus, one quotes another from memory and shitstorm ensues... :) Whatever.

No one is attacking you personally. A lot of people read HN for insightful or evidence backed commentary and the voting mechanism is there to maintain this quality. No one can quote your story and retain any credibility -to a third party relating your story sounds like this: "A dude in a web discussion forum claimed that a man who, based on his childhood memories, was a CEO at Alcor, said that...". It has degenerated…

Totally valid statement! I haven't been claiming otherwise.

I proved who I was talking about, I stand by my statement and I believe that some HNers are dicks, period.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aggressively debated then :-) I dont give a shit - but jesus, one quotes another from memory and shitstorm ensues... :) Whatever.

No one is attacking you personally. A lot of people read HN for insightful or evidence backed commentary and the voting mechanism is there to maintain this quality. No one can quote your story and retain any credibility -to a third party relating your story sounds like this: "A dude in a web discussion forum claimed that a man who, based on his childhood memories, was a CEO at Alcor, said that...". It has degenerated…

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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Patrick, I used a random sampling of things... relax. How would you mandate pen-tests for every router to eliminate your job? Wouldnt happen, huh? Who gives a shit. My point is that if we are so concerned about one aspect of health, then why is "kids need good teeth" the only fucking vector we are addressing?

@tptacek: That is the second time I have called you Patrick... I have no idea why! I apologize. My whole life everyone has called me Steve, my name is Sam.... Anyway - I dont know why I see your username and equate it with Patrick. How do I reset mental variables?

I do the same thing! Patrick and tptacek have a lot of the same letters in the same order (p-t-c-k)... maybe that's why?

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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I was down voted to hell for saying this in the past, but I'll share it again: One of my dads best friends was head of ALCOA, John Haymaker: Quote: "aluminum production produces fluoride acid - a substance so toxic that we cannot dispose of it... So we began fluoridation of the water because the only place we can store it is in your liver" And for those that toe the line with dental benefit BS: if the government was…

> why isn't any other medical benefit made free and literally forced upon you like fluoride is??? Iodization of edible salt is commonly either mandated or subsidized by government, so fluoridation of water isn't the only intervention of its kind.

Realized, thank you.

What is the diff between this and other pandemic illness? Meaning (in all seriousness) why certain things and not others? What or who formed these decisions

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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Are you advocating for less testing on toothpaste or more testing on cosmetics...

In a way, both, depending. In the case of toothpaste, we've already tested fluoride. I'm going to guess we know the safe limits and the recommended amounts in the stuff. So as long as there isn't any new sorts of drug in the toothpaste and one is using pretty standard safe sort of ingredients, there isn't really a need for some of the testing - animal or human testing. Tests to verify the percentage of fluoride in th…

> So as long as there isn't any new sorts of drug in the toothpaste and one is using pretty standard safe sort of ingredients, there isn't really a need for some of the testing

This is probably exactly what the testing is for. Consider a drug that is (fluoride + X), where both fluoride and X are "already tested and safe". Are we sure that for all values for X, (fluoride + X) is safe also?

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