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San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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$600,000 is affordable? How about smart? I don't mean to chide, but $600,000 for a cookie cutter tract-home is down right absurd. California is nuts.

$600,000 for a house in California sounds pretty cheap to me too. That's the price of an apartment in Toronto and even senior software developers here are lucky to clear US$80,000 a year.

Yeah but it's well known the housing market in Toronto is crazy too...

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If you live in rural Kentucky, housing in many parts of Florida would be considered absurd. Comparing costs of living in wages against locations is apples and oranges. You can get a home with 2000sgft in Montana with 50 acres for the same price as a cookie cutter home in a subdivision in North Carolina. Housing is based on numerous economic factors including wage and comps (what other people have been willing to spen…

It doesn't scale though. I live in SD (moving to Austin) and the cost of living to income ratio is simply better elsewhere.

Absolutely. We're looking to move as well. Can't handle the cost of living here in SD.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. It's about 15 minutes from the coast without traffic -- 25 mins from downtown. Nearby areas like Mira Mesa and Clairemont are cheaper but the public schools aren't as good.

I love PQ. Guys PLEASE don't come to San Diego. I like it the way it is and would hate to see it turn into another Bay Area. On a more serious note I still have no idea why people haven't figured this out and all flooded the place... You could have some killer startups here..

Other than the fact that there's no cheap talent to build the start-ups with because you can't live here and work for cheap...

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I can see the appeal of places like SF and NYC for 20-somethings, but I'm in my mid-30s with 2 kids and in San Diego I can afford a nice single-family house in the suburbs with good public schools and (relatively) affordable daycare. When I hear about the crowding and cost of living in places like SF/Boston/NYC it makes me shudder. I love it here, but I work in La Jolla not Sorrento Valley (I'm in biotech, not IT). B…

Your and my definitions of affordable housing are way different. Housing here is anything but affordable.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I moved to San Diego to start a tech company with a partner about 18 months ago. SD was chosen because partner lived there and was established. We found it very difficult to get the attention of any VC's or potential customers. We did manage to get an interview with YC, but were declined. Was this due to the location? Perhaps. I do know that the events we went to were lackluster, and the ecosystem was weak. You've go…

I agree. I've been to many meetups myself and while there are some really smart people doing cool things there's also just not a lot going on overall. A lot of attendees are curious, or beginners, or whatever... Which is all good since that's where everyone starts, but it doesn't provide much in the way of opportunity.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I grew up in San Diego before spending 20 years in the Bay Area. While I totally understand why a fresh graduate would want to head north to the bay, I think as a place to CREATE a startup, San Diego has tremendous potential. The weather is beautiful and actually beats SF. It's close to 70 year round, nice and dry, with great beaches and mountain and desert hiking. As the article notes downtown has been evolving in a…

> Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away. I see lots of >$1 million homes and >$1500/month rents for apartments, in the suburbs. Do you have any specific areas in mind? I'm thinking about moving.

I lived in North Park for $1700/month in 1100 sq ft. Plenty of stuff within walking distance as well as only being a few miles from Downtown. Living right next to Balboa Park was great as well. Compared to LA (and the better paying / more diverse opportunities you can find there), I'd have to classify it as expensive.

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I grew up in San Diego before spending 20 years in the Bay Area. While I totally understand why a fresh graduate would want to head north to the bay, I think as a place to CREATE a startup, San Diego has tremendous potential. The weather is beautiful and actually beats SF. It's close to 70 year round, nice and dry, with great beaches and mountain and desert hiking. As the article notes downtown has been evolving in a…

As an engineer who also grew up in San Diego and now works here full-time, I totally agree. I think there is tremendous potential for innovation in San Diego, the hardest part is finding investors. As you said, there are many great universities nearby, with plenty of young talent who might be disenfranchised with the high cost of living/lifestyle of SV(or maybe that's just me,the disenfranchised part, not the talent)…

find a university collaborator (it might help with credibility if you do not have a good footing in the field) and go for it.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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$600,000 is affordable? How about smart? I don't mean to chide, but $600,000 for a cookie cutter tract-home is down right absurd. California is nuts.

The comparison is 2million in Palo Alto for an attached townhouse ~2200sqft. You might be able to get an 800k house in a bad neighborhood (east palo alto) that's 1100 sqft. Friend in Buffalo is buying a house for 120k, difference is extreme.

And I'll bet the average salary and job prospects in Buffalo are reflective of the low house prices.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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When I first visited San Francisco for a work trip, I was so underwhelmed about my experience there, don't take me wrong I think it's a great city with a lot going on, but I couldn't help but feel like it was so overhyped. Several friends wouldn't stop talking about how great SF is, and in my mind I always had this silly image of self driving cars, entire streets dedicated to technology and all kinds of futuristic sc…

SF smells like urine.
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