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San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I grew up in San Diego before spending 20 years in the Bay Area. While I totally understand why a fresh graduate would want to head north to the bay, I think as a place to CREATE a startup, San Diego has tremendous potential.

The weather is beautiful and actually beats SF. It's close to 70 year round, nice and dry, with great beaches and mountain and desert hiking. As the article notes downtown has been evolving in a really promising direction, to say nothing of classic beach spots like Del Mar, La Jolla, Pacific Beach, etc. For getaways there is LA, Mexico, skiing at Big Bear.

The computer science program at UCSD is typically ranked about 15th globally, CalTech is not terribly far north, nor is UCLA and UC Irvine and UCSB and UC Riverside, and SDSU, though it has a reputation as a party school, is no slouch.

Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away.

More important there is a real diversity of industry still in San Diego, with lots of biotech, defense (contracting and the actual Navy), aerospace, and health.

Thirty years ago, the Bay Area/Valley had a very San Diego feel to it. Easy to forget now, but it was a pretty laid back place where an ordinary person could buy a nice spread in the suburbs and where starting a business in your garage was a reasonable thing to attempt in a borderline casual way. You get the impression people smoked a lot of pot and spent a lot of time relaxing, whether in hot tubs or on hiking trails or wherever. It was a California lifestyle. The Bay Area feels like New York now, except with tech and better weather — just very intense. San Diego still feels like California.

I'm not saying it'll ever match the Bay Area/Valley as a tech hub; the lead in Northern California is too great. But San Diego should be at or near the top of the list of secondary hubs, in my biased opinion.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Approaching my graduation from UCSD's CS program back in '08, I couldn't wait to move from SD to SF. Several reasons but the main ones were: 1) hard to find driven people that wanted to make an impact in their field 2) tech scene was heavily dominated by biotech and Qualcomm 3) missing intellectually curious people.

I hope it turns around soon however, since it's a beautiful place to live.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I don't buy it. The northern part of San Diego is pretty comparable to, say, Mountain View. The real problem is lack of compelling opportunities. Your options are basically Qualcomm or Inuit -- neither of which have particular draw for young engineers.

This is why I left in 2009. Ten job leads in mountain view, zero in San Diego County.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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It's fun to see San Diego at the top of HN. I'm finishing a PhD at UC San Diego, and I've noticed a few things. First, there is a different dynamic for biotech talent. The biotech scene in SD is strong, and people seem drawn to that. Second, in contrast to LA at least, commuting in SD is not terribly difficult. And there is a light rail (trolley) beginning construction up to the UCSD campus from downtown. Third, this…

What are you doing your PhD in? I'm working on a healthcare software company in San Diego. We should chat.

Bioengineering. I'll DM you on Twitter :)

[EDIT] Didn't work. Feel free to email me. Address is in my Bio.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Little do they know that SV is just as desolate? Most of the big tech firms are 1-2 hours away from SF in suburbia.

Can you name one "big tech firm" that is 2 hour away from SF?

Apple, depending on traffic or how you get there.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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post #31

I grew up in San Diego before spending 20 years in the Bay Area. While I totally understand why a fresh graduate would want to head north to the bay, I think as a place to CREATE a startup, San Diego has tremendous potential. The weather is beautiful and actually beats SF. It's close to 70 year round, nice and dry, with great beaches and mountain and desert hiking. As the article notes downtown has been evolving in a…

> Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away.

I see lots of >$1 million homes and >$1500/month rents for apartments, in the suburbs. Do you have any specific areas in mind? I'm thinking about moving.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only that, but isn't there a massive shortage of single women there? I guess the Millennials aren't interested in dating....

What does this have to do with anything? And why do you assume all "Millenials" in tech are either male or exclusively interested in women?

He's talking about millenials who work in tech and he assumes it because the vast majority are straight men, which is why there is the "lack of women there" to begin with.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I lived in San Diego for the last two years and this article doesn't make much sense to me. They say the problem is that Sorento valley is to far from San Diego downtown but downtown is dull and there are plenty of good places to live not far away from Sorento valley (Del Mar, La Jolla, Pacific Beach). I commuted from North Park to the UCSD campus which is close to Sorrento valley and it was no problem at all.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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post #37
post #31

I grew up in San Diego before spending 20 years in the Bay Area. While I totally understand why a fresh graduate would want to head north to the bay, I think as a place to CREATE a startup, San Diego has tremendous potential. The weather is beautiful and actually beats SF. It's close to 70 year round, nice and dry, with great beaches and mountain and desert hiking. As the article notes downtown has been evolving in a…

> Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away. I see lots of >$1 million homes and >$1500/month rents for apartments, in the suburbs. Do you have any specific areas in mind? I'm thinking about moving.

I think the key qualifier there is "compared to the Bay Area"
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