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Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

#21
Sorry to be negative: Introducing a vasoconstrictor to be used everyday topically in the mouth around the gingiva is probably an irresponsible idea. I think you need to do longitudinal animal studies before you can sell this in good conscience.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

#22

> Power Toothpaste does not contain Fluoride. We know many of you don't want fluoride in your toothpaste. This seems bizarre to me. People don't want fluoride in their toothpaste? Why not? Dentists seem pretty unanimous that everyone should brush twice a day with fluoride toothpaste.

The popular opinion is that we already get enough fluoride in our water.

I don't think my water has fluoride, though.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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post #21

Sorry to be negative: Introducing a vasoconstrictor to be used everyday topically in the mouth around the gingiva is probably an irresponsible idea. I think you need to do longitudinal animal studies before you can sell this in good conscience.

The U.S. military has studied the use of caffeinated gum (which has a higher concentration of caffeine and stays in your mouth much longer) and has not seen negative health impacts. I'll upload the studies I have collected to dropbox and post a link later today! Otherwise, I've spoken to a ton of dentists about this and they weren't concerned about caffeine's impact on the gingae.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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> Power Toothpaste does not contain Fluoride. We know many of you don't want fluoride in your toothpaste. This seems bizarre to me. People don't want fluoride in their toothpaste? Why not? Dentists seem pretty unanimous that everyone should brush twice a day with fluoride toothpaste.

The popular opinion is that we already get enough fluoride in our water.

If this is true, then I must be really out of touch. No one has expressed that opinion to me, nor have I seen it on Facebook in my News Feed (and I do occasionally see woo-woo stuff there). And I've certainly never heard a dentist say that. I'm not surprised that there are people who make this claim, but I would never have considered it "the popular opinion", or even a popular opinion.

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

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> Power Toothpaste does not contain Fluoride. We know many of you don't want fluoride in your toothpaste. This seems bizarre to me. People don't want fluoride in their toothpaste? Why not? Dentists seem pretty unanimous that everyone should brush twice a day with fluoride toothpaste.

Judging from this comment, the choice to remove fluoride seems to be a way to avoid additional FDA testing (including animal studies).

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12507965

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

#28
I have to be honest, this is a cool idea but after reading some of the comments, it makes sense that more information and health topics/concerns need to be addressed. Although overall, I would much rather just have a cup of coffee (I'm a coffee lover).

Maybe market to an industry where it is necessary for someone to be caffeinated right away after waking up (think time sensitive, life / death) and health concerns are more gray area (ie. maybe soldiers can use this during war time). edit, spacing...

Re: Show HN: I invented a caffeinated toothpaste

#29

> Power Toothpaste does not contain Fluoride. We know many of you don't want fluoride in your toothpaste. This seems bizarre to me. People don't want fluoride in their toothpaste? Why not? Dentists seem pretty unanimous that everyone should brush twice a day with fluoride toothpaste.

I wrote a longer comment about this below, but the essential reason is: if I made fluoride a product requirement, I wouldn't have gotten to a release. It would have added a huge expense.

Additionally, fluoride is much more important for children. As enamel is forming, fluoride interacts with it and strengthens it. Adults need far less (threshold dose effect) and for most people in the United States, they likely get enough in the water. I also figure this is a toothpaste you'll use in the morning, and another fluoridated one in the evening. You can also use a fluoridated mouthwash.

At some point, I would love to introduce a fluoridated version.

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