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San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. It's about 15 minutes from the coast without traffic -- 25 mins from downtown. Nearby areas like Mira Mesa and Clairemont are cheaper but the public schools aren't as good.

Sounds like similar prices and commute to Daly City. Can anyone who knows both regions distinguish them for me?

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Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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As someone from Dallas who's considering a move next year (not by choice; our state legislature has promised to pass laws next year that will make it effectively illegal for me to continue to live here), I have no interest in ever setting foot in NorCal, but SoCal is on my short list. I find the Silicon Valley tech industry frightening and the culture associated with it degenerate. I'm not interested in the out-of-co…

> As someone from Dallas who's considering a move next year (not by choice; our state legislature has promised to pass laws next year that will make it effectively illegal for me to continue to live here)

What are they trying to do?

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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> Meanwhile the housing is still affordable compared to the Bay Area, if not cheap on a national basis. And the Valley is an hourlong Southwest flight away. I see lots of >$1 million homes and >$1500/month rents for apartments, in the suburbs. Do you have any specific areas in mind? I'm thinking about moving.

In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. It's about 15 minutes from the coast without traffic -- 25 mins from downtown. Nearby areas like Mira Mesa and Clairemont are cheaper but the public schools aren't as good.

>In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days.

Not true. I just bought a house in PQ and there's no WAY you can find anything below 650.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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A relevant story. I worked with a friend here in the Bay Area a while back. One day his father in law got sick, and he was forced to move to San Diego. When he started looking for jobs, they were all offing about 20% less money for the same work, despite the fact that at the time the cost of living was almost identical.

When he asked one of them, "why don't you pay as much as the bay area" he was told, "our weather is better so we pay less".

There's only so much suffering you're willing to take for "better weather".

The same could of course be said for Silicon Valley too.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I moved to San Diego to start a tech company with a partner about 18 months ago. SD was chosen because partner lived there and was established. We found it very difficult to get the attention of any VC's or potential customers. We did manage to get an interview with YC, but were declined. Was this due to the location? Perhaps. I do know that the events we went to were lackluster, and the ecosystem was weak. You've go…

San Diego is nice if you want a casual, laid-back lifestyle.

The problem is that "casual" and "laid-back" are the last words you want to use to describe how startups need to behave in order to get off the ground.

Places like SF and NY work very well for startups because, among other things, there's a sense of urgency and intensity. In San Diego however, the established business culture is pretty slow due to the dominant tech sectors (like biotech and hardware) having long-term R&D cycles.

Don't get me wrong, I have family in SD and I'd love to live there. Just not if I'm planning to found a startup.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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If you live in rural Kentucky, housing in many parts of Florida would be considered absurd. Comparing costs of living in wages against locations is apples and oranges. You can get a home with 2000sgft in Montana with 50 acres for the same price as a cookie cutter home in a subdivision in North Carolina. Housing is based on numerous economic factors including wage and comps (what other people have been willing to spen…

The difference between the housing market in the Bay and almost anywhere else is an extreme caricature of your analogy, though. At some point all analogies fail to provide an adequate description, but yours fails almost out of the gate here, in my opinion.

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Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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I moved to San Diego to start a tech company with a partner about 18 months ago. SD was chosen because partner lived there and was established. We found it very difficult to get the attention of any VC's or potential customers. We did manage to get an interview with YC, but were declined. Was this due to the location? Perhaps. I do know that the events we went to were lackluster, and the ecosystem was weak. You've go…

If you want to be happy in SD, you have to be content with driving everywhere. Cycling sucks in 99% of the city and mass transit is terrible. If you try to live in SD like you live in SF or NYC, you will not be happy. I'm not sure about your complaint with SD being too hot. 2 miles from the beach should be great weather. I lived in San Diego for 20 of my 35 years of life (moved away in 2011) and the weather is one of…

I understand the summer of 2015 was especially hot (El Niño and all that), and it might be that our neighborhood was especially warm. We lived in South Park, right by The Big Kitchen. For all my complaints about San Diego I actually really liked South Park. Kindred is a great metal vegan beer bar, and Brabant was fantastic before they closed.

I am pretty dedicated to living a car-free life, and on paper SD seemed like it MIGHT work. I used car2go when needed and cycled or rode a 170cc scooter for the first few months. After my wife got hit by someone who drove off it really soured me on the city, as did dripping in sweat any time I went anywhere on my bike.

However, I also acknowledge that these responses are largely emotional. People are killed by automobiles everywhere, and riding in the cold rain isn't much fun either.

I ended up moving back to Dublin (Ireland).

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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Who cares? Where are the articles about San Antonio losing its "young oil and gas talent" to Houston? How about Philly losing its "young finance talent" to New York? Also, I'm pretty sure biotech counts as "tech." Hey, it even has it in the name. Too bad they don't have more on demand laundry startups, since apparently that's the key to success as a city.

"on demand laundry startups"

Is that a real thing?

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. It's about 15 minutes from the coast without traffic -- 25 mins from downtown. Nearby areas like Mira Mesa and Clairemont are cheaper but the public schools aren't as good.

>In north county, places like Rancho Penasquitos (92129) have great schools and you can find decent single-family homes in the low $600's these days. Not true. I just bought a house in PQ and there's no WAY you can find anything below 650.

Depends on which part. North-east PQ (over by Rolling Hills) homes were built in the early 70s and are still going in the low 600's. I believe west PQ (Black Mountain Rd area) homes are newer and more expensive.

Re: San Diego Struggles to Keep Its Young Tech Talent

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When I first visited San Francisco for a work trip, I was so underwhelmed about my experience there, don't take me wrong I think it's a great city with a lot going on, but I couldn't help but feel like it was so overhyped. Several friends wouldn't stop talking about how great SF is, and in my mind I always had this silly image of self driving cars, entire streets dedicated to technology and all kinds of futuristic scenery before I visited but instead on my first visit I was greeted by some crackhead spitting on me while riding BART, lots of beggars and homeless people as I got out of the station and walked around, trash in the streets and it looked like just another city. Lots of restaurants and bars though, fantastic food selection.

I could be a bit biased on my view though, as I'm more of a suburb person.

I'd like to visit Palo Alto and San Jose to check it out at some point, I've heard it has a lot to offer too

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