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Neglected Food Bubbles: The Espresso Coffee Foam

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American coffee snob here (not that I necessarily have good taste though): I was blown away by the espresso in Italy. On a two-week trip, every espresso I had there was better than any espresso I've had in the U.S. Which isn't to say I haven't had great coffee in America, just not great espresso. I think mostly Americans just don't care about espresso. Pet peeve: high-end restaurants in the U.S. mostly don't care abo…

So if not espresso, what kind of coffee do Americans drink, but that's any good? I'm just very used to italian-style espresso in the cafés and turkish at home, as that's the cultural norm around here (croatian adriatic coast; basically ex-venetian colony ;) ). I'd like to give other styles a shot, but only provided they're worth a damn. Can't say I've been impressed by whatever the muck they serve at McDonald's is, o…

My morning cup of joe is usually made in an Aeropress from freshly roasted and ground beans. Typically Counter Culture or Larry's beans (local suppliers), light roast. I use a burr grinder.

I sometimes also make Turkish w/o the cardamon, usually with a bit of sugar, maybe with a splash of cream (blasphemy I know). But I will also occasionally use a French press, a Chemex, or make cold brew. My wife uses a Moka pot, and I will sometimes use that to make a Cubano, though it's not nearly as good as a Cubano made in a pump espresso machine.

It just depends on my mood.

I gave up trying to make good espresso at home after getting frustrated with a Gaggia machine. My fault, not the machine's, but in the end I decided it was too much effort for 1-2 oz of coffee. :-(

To answer your question: as long as the beans are freshly roasted and ground, and the coffee made with care, I'm not particularly partial to any technique. You can even have a mighty fine cup of drip coffee. I think espresso is just a much more demanding technique to make well.

About instant: I know Israelis and South Africans who prefer it, but no Americans.

Maybe the worst way to brew coffee: percolators. Oh the horror.

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Coffee shops go through 5 bags of beans a day. I doubt they have as many stale bean problems.

Coffee shops that have single-origin beans only used for pour overs, french press, etc., can typically use the same bag over the course of at least multiple days, sometimes weeks. Two shops around me at least keep them in nice jars, but no vacuum sealing.

Ah did not think about single-origin. Yes those could sit for a while...

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Cuban espresso is often made with robusto beans which are very strong. So your theory might be true. Many cuban restaurants I have been to in Miami use Café Bustelo which to be honest probably wouldn't be so crappy if the roast-to-serve-delta was lower. Robusto beans get a bad wrap.

Café Bustelo at least comes in vacuum packed bricks, so roast-to-serve delta probably isn't that bad compared to most commercial coffee. In any case, it's not responsible for making me feel like I've just smoked 6 packs of cigarettes every time I drink one.

I'm so used to Café Bustelo from a moka pot that I find almost all coffee-shop espresso to be unpleasantly light. I actually pack the grounds extra tight and use lower heat to make sure I get an even darker and richer brew.

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I am from India, living in the US and I have seen tons of Indian snobs saying the Indian food in the US is just not good enough. I just can't agree. I can imagine that the probability of finding good espresso may be much higher in Italy - maybe every corner cafe makes only the best coffee. But the idea that good espresso cannot be found anywhere in the US (or SFO), which is home to many Europeans, just seems a bit of…

Most Indian restaurants do not serve common Indian cuisine; no average Indian consumes saag paneer or "paneer tikka masala" on a regular basis. North Indians, on the other hand, have things like daal regularly; daals in Indian restaurants in the US suck almost universally. I haven't even seen a restaurant that serves rajma. Maybe South Indian food is different, but I haven't had good North Indian food anywhere in the…

I grew up in Puné and almost all restaurants served stuff like paneer tikka masala. That's what going out to eat was for us. At home we had home cooked Maharashtrian food. In the restaurants we had "North Indian" fancy dishes lol which were almost never made at home (So I've never had daal in restaurants). I see it the same way here. A North Indian may view it differently.

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Ritual's coffee is terrible: acidic, unpleasant to the palate and lacking in aroma. I hope your coffee is better than theirs. - disclosure: I'm Italian and I believe espresso in San Francisco sucks almost universally

It took me a while to figure this out. I also grew up with italian espresso and I always wondered why all these crafty, specialist roasters (all over the world) can't do a drinkable espresso and always end up with undrinkable acid in a cup. A lot of italian espresso blends are a mix Arrabica/Robusta. Robusta beans create the sought-after strong/bitterish italien espresso flavor and probably also reduce/mask/balance t…

I am solidly in the third wave camp. I like the origin flavors that I get in a lighter third wave roast that I simply don't get in an Italian shot. I do agree that a bit of milk tones down the acid a bit, and I feel that the origin flavors can through come through even in something like a cortado.

Another note, isn't the ratio for espresso in the States different than in Italy. When I was a barista in Chicago we did 1:2 coffee to water. I thought I heard that in Italy 1:3 or 1:4 was more popular. I may be wrong

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