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Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by woliveirajr »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #39
Someone wrote: post #33

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin%27s_lost_expedition#L... : "Over the next 150 years, other expeditions, explorers, and scientists would piece together what happened next. Franklin's men wintered in 1845–46 on Beechey Island, where three crew members died and were buried. Terror and Erebus became trapped in ice off King William Island in September 1846 and never sailed again. According to a note dated 25 April…

So, in conclusion, Terror Bay was so named because of the British Navy's propensity for badass ship names. See also: HMS Firedrake, HMS Warspite, HMS Arrogant, HMS Destruction...

Boaty McBoat...

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by arethuza »

lostlogin wrote: post #55
astrodust wrote: post #24

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Sea travel in general was apocalyptically bad for sailors until about 1910. I don't think people realize how dangerously shitty it was for people.

Reading about the ww2 Arctic convoys has the same feeling.

I can recommend Three Corvettes by Nicholas Monsarrat - the author of The Cruel Sea - it is his account of his experiences at sea during WW2.

One of the few books that has moved me to tears.

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by gerbilly »

logicallee wrote: post #56
gerbilly wrote: post #32

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Yes the dug up bodies were from men who died during the expeditions first season, which had actually gone pretty well. Unfortunately, they anchored the ships for the winter, shortly after those men died, in pretty much the worst place possible, on the western side of King William's Island.[1] This is a spot where all the pack ice from the north west flows to, forming a huge towering jumble of ice. They fully expected…

this isn't related to anything, but out of personal curiosity can you tell me whether you are a manager? (you can mail me at the link in my profile, if you don't want to reply here for whatever reason). I'm just curious and have no follow-up either way. thanks.

I am not a manager. Why do you ask?

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by manarth »

nylsaar wrote: post #52
labster wrote: post #47

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Thanks to all of the hard work of the energy extraction industry, future generations will never have to deal with the lack of a Northwest Passage. They will, however, have to deal with a coral shortage.

So, how did this ship attempt to sail this route 168 years ago if there was no energy extraction industry?

Because the route was occasionally navigable, dependent on season and weather; but if trends continue, the route will be consistently navigable.

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by ptaipale »

NoPiece wrote: post #41
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #37

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Link?

Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article about it for the New Yorker in 1997. http://gladwell.com/the-dead-zone/

Fascinating, but can someone explain why the text reads

  I–PERMAFROST
  
  On September 24, viagra 1918, three days after setting sail ...
What does that "VIAGRA" (on a small caps font) do there?

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by onlycommenting »

ptaipale wrote: post #65
NoPiece wrote: post #41

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Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article about it for the New Yorker in 1997. http://gladwell.com/the-dead-zone/

Fascinating, but can someone explain why the text reads I–PERMAFROST On September 24, viagra 1918, three days after setting sail ... What does that "VIAGRA" (on a small caps font) do there?

Looks like the blog was hacked at some point, and what you are looking at is old SEO spam.

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Post by ptaipale »

4ad wrote: post #30
lisper wrote: post #29

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There is some precedent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship) It is worth a trip to Stockholm to see the Vasa. The photos on Wikipedia do not do her justice.

I can confirm this. It's one of the most impressive museums I've ever been to.

The whole thing is also a living example of lessons about project and product management: how uncontrolled requirements made by the major stakeholder (in this case, king Gustaf Adolf) changed the project scope (so many guns were ordered to be fitted that the ship had to have two gun decks, with too high center of gravity) which then caused a major technical disaster (it capsized in wind). And then starts the hunt for a scapegoat.

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Post by unpixer »

ceejayoz wrote: post #2

There's a fun Dan Simmons book "The Terror" that tells a (very) fictional account of what happened to them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Terror_(novel)

There's also Mordechai Richler's 'Solomon Gursky Was Here', which recounts its eponymous protagonist's grim experience as a member of the expedition. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Gursky_Was_Here)

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Post by logicallee »

gerbilly wrote: post #63
logicallee wrote: post #56

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this isn't related to anything, but out of personal curiosity can you tell me whether you are a manager? (you can mail me at the link in my profile, if you don't want to reply here for whatever reason). I'm just curious and have no follow-up either way. thanks.

I am not a manager. Why do you ask?

Thanks for the reply! I got downvotes before I removed the context, it doesn't matter and I removed that part (but I don't want more downvotes so I don't want to say, plus it doesn't matter.)

You can mail me if you want to know.

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