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Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of when the military dug up corpses from the artic so they could get at the 1917 Spanish flu

Link?

Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article about it for the New Yorker in 1997.

http://gladwell.com/the-dead-zone/

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

#42
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reminds me of when the military dug up corpses from the artic so they could get at the 1917 Spanish flu

Link?

I've never heard of this before, but a quick Google revealed this article (along others), which is probably what 2AF3 is referring to. Not sure of the military connection.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-11-18/news/9911180290_...

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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A years back I became fascinated with 19th century Artic exploration through reading Fergus Fleming's excellent book Barrow's Boys: A Stirring Story of Daring, Fortitude, and Outright Lunacy . I was therefore rather surprised to find that one of the bodies from the Franklin expedition, of Lieutenant John Irving, is buried not far from where I live in central Edinburgh: http://edinburghwalks.com/2014/11/30/heroism-can…

Thanks for the link. I love reading books about early adventurers who first explored our planet. My favourite so far has been Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage about Shakleton's semi-doomed voyage to Antarctica where they survived an entire winter after their boat got stranded in ice. Mostly by eating seals... and their sled dogs at one point. https://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Shackletons-Incredible-Alfr...

I can recommend this one: The Lost City of Z: A Tale of Deadly Obsession in the Amazon (2009) by David Grann.

"It tells the story of the British explorer Percy Fawcett who, in 1925, disappeared with his son in the Amazon while looking for an ancient lost city. For decades, explorers and scientists have tried to find evidence of his party and the Lost City of Z. Perhaps as many as 100 people perished or disappeared searching for Fawcett over the years. Grann made his own journey into the Amazon, revealing new evidence about how Fawcett died and showing that Z may have really existed right under his feet." [0]

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_City_of_Z_(book)

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

#46
post #22
post #4

A years back I became fascinated with 19th century Artic exploration through reading Fergus Fleming's excellent book Barrow's Boys: A Stirring Story of Daring, Fortitude, and Outright Lunacy . I was therefore rather surprised to find that one of the bodies from the Franklin expedition, of Lieutenant John Irving, is buried not far from where I live in central Edinburgh: http://edinburghwalks.com/2014/11/30/heroism-can…

Thanks for the link. I love reading books about early adventurers who first explored our planet. My favourite so far has been Endurance: Shackleton's Incredible Voyage about Shakleton's semi-doomed voyage to Antarctica where they survived an entire winter after their boat got stranded in ice. Mostly by eating seals... and their sled dogs at one point. https://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Shackletons-Incredible-Alfr...

Or you can read South, and read Shackleton's own words https://www.amazon.com/South-ENDURANCE-Expedition-Ernest-Sha...

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

#47

Good thing this won't be a problem anymore.

Thanks to all of the hard work of the energy extraction industry, future generations will never have to deal with the lack of a Northwest Passage. They will, however, have to deal with a coral shortage.

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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If only Stan Rogers had lived to see it... "Ah for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage / to find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea..." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Passage_(song)

My father's comment, upon reading the article:

"And if they had a barge lent by a friend, they could tie their cables fore and aft and gird her all around ... and hit the air and then take up the strain ... etc."

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

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post #47

Good thing this won't be a problem anymore.

Thanks to all of the hard work of the energy extraction industry, future generations will never have to deal with the lack of a Northwest Passage. They will, however, have to deal with a coral shortage.

s/shortage/extiction/

Re: Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

#50

I've always suspected that tuberculosis played a large role in the demise of the expedition. We're pretty sure that some crew members had it and in the close quarters of the ships it's very likely to have spread unchecked. Combined with the obvious lead poisoning and the possibility of scurvy the expedition had very little chance of success. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1279489/

What's the source/cause of the lead poisoning?
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