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Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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But how about the bribes (to get e.g. electricity)? http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/12/business/global/12ikea.htm...

Yandex is a public company with stocks on NASDAQ. Can you ever imagine how it is hard to hide bribes inside of public company budget? :)

Not very. International listings don't need to abide by normal US listing regulations for financial reporting.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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post #122

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The parent is talking only about surveillance, but from the report you linked, it's pretty obvious the US, Russia, and China, are pretty much in the same horrific boat as far as human rights abuses. Actually, I'd say the US, with 2.37 million people behind bars is worse than either China or Russia or any other country currently on earth. When you're systematically ruining that many lives, you're in Nazi territory.

i hope you're kidding or trolling. the current situation with incarcerations in america sounds horrible, yes, but its a far cry from systematically eradicating millions of people per year...

Really? I don't see much difference. Slavery is slavery. Torture is torture. Rape is rape. The first two are legal in prison and all three are widely practiced as punishment. Yes, you have a better chance of surviving our prisons, but by that point, your life is ruined and pretty much over anyway. There are much worse things than death.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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You don't need to look there, at all. Just look at the US aggressive wars and subversive activities in this century, e.g. Iraq, Libya and it becomes clear that the value of human rights abroad from the US point of view is exactly 0.

Iraq was a disgrace but bringing up Libya means you are either ignorant or being disingenuous. Gaddafi had imminent plans to commit another cleansing of the opposition. It was always going to be a lose-lose situation for human rights. Doing nothing is not always the right answer.

It's better to state the reality not the myth sold by USA : Ghadafi wasn't about to commit anything else than what US allies have already done.

Now Libya is a failed state thanks to US and HRW lies.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Yandex offers unlimited users (up to 1000, then you have to contact them and I guess they will allow more) and claims unlimited storage, zoho free tier is 25 users and 5 GB storage/user.

Any idea if they support email 'distribution lists' or similar? I want something like test@example.com > delivered to list of users with a mix of email addresses at other domains. Gandi.net does this now (they call it a forwarding only address) but their included mailbox size is 1GB. I've got a non-profit domain that needs more email storage. I tried Zoho last year after hearing multiple recommendations and it was no…

https://yandex.com/support/domain/additional/maillists.xml

Doesn't seem to support addresses from other domains though.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Iraq was a disgrace but bringing up Libya means you are either ignorant or being disingenuous. Gaddafi had imminent plans to commit another cleansing of the opposition. It was always going to be a lose-lose situation for human rights. Doing nothing is not always the right answer.

So how do you rate the situation in Libya before and after Gaddafi?

Bad with him there. Much worse with him gone.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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The US just uses different words, such as "campaign financing", or "creative accounting".

Go on and try offering "campaign financing", or "creative accounting" to a policeman stopped you for speeding somewhere in California. Don't forget to record it on your smartphone. In Russia, literally ANY road policeman not only takes bribes, but has a bag of tricks how to get more from you. Unfortunately it's well-known to me, from my own experience. (10+ years of driving on Russian roads, 4+ in California)

In the US the policeman can legally just take your car and your cash. They don't need to mess around with tricks. (Look up civil assert forfeiture.)

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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Never seen any non-russian yandex user myself.

I don't see any other free providers of custom domain emails; so when a friend incorporated and wanted to have bob@bobscompany.com then I set him up with yandex - all "english market" services suddenly wanted a rather unreasonable business-class pricing for that simple thing.

as someone else mentioned: zoho. I think it's $2.5/month for unlimited domains connected to one mailbox.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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10 man-years are not though. I'm a postgres fan and booster myself but I'd need a good reason to migrate a data backend on any project I'm managing.

it wouldn't have been 10 man years if they had less PL/SQL. I don't understand why people keep falling into that trap of putting complex logic in stored procedures.

No, you are not right. In video (Q&A section in the end) you can hear that rewriting stored logic took a couple of weeks of one developer. Maybe a couple of month with good tests.

It took much more time to rewrite backends logic because of lots of legacy code in many applications without using abstraction libraries.

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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> 3x more hardware # for Postgres Tells you something about how insanely costly Oracle's licenses are. Whatever you say about Oracle though - Oracle DB is an incredibly well performing and reliable piece of software. (Attested by experience - we had several Oracle DBs running on HP-UX Itanium that only needed to be handled when OS and Oracle patches were needed. Massively used too - think 36 PA-RISC cores at peak, 24…

Nobody argues that Oracle is a very good database. But 3x more hardware and 10 man-years are an order of magnitude cheaper than Oracle licencies cost (even with maximum discount).

Re: Yandex.Mail's successful migration from Oracle to Postgres [pdf]

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compared to what?

A place that wasn't a police state of sorts with increasingly draconian legislation. Opposite end would possibly be Swiss or Icelanfic jurisdiction. I'd never use an email service in Russia. I have an untrusted, Gmail account for availability purposes. Confidential mail still encrypted and preferrably sent through Swiss account. Thinking about switching untrusted one over to Fastmail. Still surveillance state but les…

I recall a story about Swiss company, Crypto AG: http://mediafilter.org/caq/cryptogate/
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