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How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by Mithaldu »

DougWebb wrote: post #59
Mithaldu wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you thinking of the Enterprise version? Pro is available just fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZSHDJ4O/ And my Win 10 is Pro since i upgrade it from Win 7 Pro.

Hmm, I am. Does the Pro version support turning off the privacy and updating features without being joined to a domain? If there is only partial control, that's not good enough. Otherwise I may owe you a beer :)

I'm sorry, but i have no idea what it does in regards to privacy features.

I do however have access to this, and it works: http://i.imgur.com/9dutfsY.png

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by jonknee »

gol706 wrote: post #28
ihuman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you just put it in restore mode and install the latest version from iTunes, or manually download the IPSW from the internet and install it?

Once an iOS build expires, you can't take a backup, so you can do that to get the phone working again, but you lose any un-backed up data on the device like photos and app data. In the days before iCloud it was a huge pain.

> In the days before iCloud it was a huge pain.

Which is exactly why they (still!) plaster it with warnings to that effect. If you want to avoid any headaches the advice has always been to use multiple devices and keep the beta off your day to day device.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by patmcguire »

andrewbarba wrote: post #47
zoffix222 wrote: post #38

The article mentions none of the evidence this strategy actually worked at all. Is it all just conjecture or are there more articles/evidence supporting this technique?

Oh c'mon not everything on this site has to be riddled with statistics, trials, and evidence of something working. The article gave me a chuckle, and plays on our instinct to gravitate to shiny new things. I think all we need to take from this is not every technical problem needs a technical solution. Understanding your audience, in any product, is crucial; use it to your advantage however you can.

Where is the empirical evidence of a mother's love? Have you sent a PR for the joy of playing with a puppy in sunshine?

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by miss_represent »

tekklloneer wrote: post #10
failedPatch_002 wrote: post #4

Change the wallpaper. Oh, I thought it was going to be: Prevent users from disabling automatic updates, and require persistent internet connections, and then deploy updates every 7 days, so that users lose 10 or maybe 20 hours a week, waiting for failed patches to retry, and display ominous warning messages like "DO NOT POWER DOWN OR UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER WHILE WE CONSTANTLY WASTE YOUR TIME WITH BULLSHIT." But I was p…

As much as I'm not a fan of the forced automatic update (even on pro), I think your post is extremely mis-representative on multiple levels.

As much as I'm not a fan of misrepresentation, I think Microsoft's practices, in general, are deceptive and wasteful, and promote administrative and operational policies among IT and ops teams that perform comparably.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

tedunangst wrote: post #39
bkmartin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really your place to judge is it? What if they are in the middle of a long running task and the machine shuts down? Maybe it takes all day to run that process intensive task? Boom updates reboot the machine and a whole day's processing was lost. It is the users' prerogative on how they want to use their machine (poor software design choices and all) and if they don't want to take an automatic update and reboot th…

If this happens every week and you haven't done anything about it, well...

It only has to happen once.

Besides which, a predictable failure is still a failure. By your logic, Win95 crashing several times a week wasn't a problem either.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by cmdrfred »

I don't understand the logic here.

1. Download a preview build because you want "the latest and greatest".

2. Build is full of horrible bugs.

3. Microsoft needs to employ psychological tricks to get you to download the next preview build, as you cling to the previous one with both hands.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by empressplay »

zoffix222 wrote: post #38

The article mentions none of the evidence this strategy actually worked at all. Is it all just conjecture or are there more articles/evidence supporting this technique?

They did it with windows 8 (the "crossword" wallpapers e.g. http://misaki2009.deviantart.com/art/Windows-8-1-build-9374-... )... as to if it worked or not, I don't know.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by cmdrfred »

devopsproject wrote: post #53
AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #48

Seems like you could've achieved the end-goal by just warning of the danger and coming across like their safety is your primary concern rather than finding the leaks, i.e.: "Build 97241 contains a potentially fatal bug that could wipe your computer. If you are using Build 97241, please upgrade it to a more recent build or otherwise cease using this build immediately. We do not care how you acquired this build. We sim…

Have you ever taken a support phone call? Many people won't read a simple error message, let alone a message that includes numbers and other "technical mumbo jumbo" customer: I'm trying print and it just says "error" me: It just says error? customer: yes me: Are there any other words or error numbers? customer: yeah, it says "No printers are installed. Add a printer and try again" me: facepalm Their solution works be…

How many of those types of users stay abreast of the latest preview builds from Microsoft?

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by yongjik »

Heh, sounds much better than my previous employer's way of occasionally sending company-wide emails along the line of "The employee who was responsible for the XXX leak was found and terminated. We remind you that leaks damage our culture and make it difficult to share ideas inside the company."

For some reason such emails made me feel like I was inside a tech cult. Guess my culture fit wasn't good enough...

Well, to be fair, I guess MS also utilizes these emails in addition to reverse psychology...

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