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How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by bkmartin »

singlow wrote: post #22
loeg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the PC reboots with your work unsaved, you could lose a day's work, for example.

You have a day's worth of unsaved work?

Not really your place to judge is it? What if they are in the middle of a long running task and the machine shuts down? Maybe it takes all day to run that process intensive task? Boom updates reboot the machine and a whole day's processing was lost. It is the users' prerogative on how they want to use their machine (poor software design choices and all) and if they don't want to take an automatic update and reboot then so be it. Or what if some people like to wait a couple weeks and see if Microsoft accidentally breaks something major with an update... pretty sure that has happened before.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by [deleted] »

gol706 wrote: post #28
ihuman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you just put it in restore mode and install the latest version from iTunes, or manually download the IPSW from the internet and install it?

Once an iOS build expires, you can't take a backup, so you can do that to get the phone working again, but you lose any un-backed up data on the device like photos and app data. In the days before iCloud it was a huge pain.

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Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by cududa »

gol706 wrote: post #28
ihuman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you just put it in restore mode and install the latest version from iTunes, or manually download the IPSW from the internet and install it?

Once an iOS build expires, you can't take a backup, so you can do that to get the phone working again, but you lose any un-backed up data on the device like photos and app data. In the days before iCloud it was a huge pain.

Why didn't you just upgrade to the production build when it was released?

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#34

Post by [deleted] »

gol706 wrote: post #28
ihuman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you just put it in restore mode and install the latest version from iTunes, or manually download the IPSW from the internet and install it?

Once an iOS build expires, you can't take a backup, so you can do that to get the phone working again, but you lose any un-backed up data on the device like photos and app data. In the days before iCloud it was a huge pain.

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Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#35

Post by bkmartin »

kazinator wrote: post #2

How about: have a really cheesy wallpapers in the pre-release builds which conveys the message (perhaps with explicit text right in the wallpaper image) that this is not a released build. Also, how about making not-released builds simply expire. The build should know that nobody ought to run it past a certain date. (If such operation is needed internally, it can be rigged with an extension mechanism built into the ex…

Developer builds do expire. Dealing with that with one of my customers. A slick little IT guy decided that he would put his developer copy of Windows on this particular non-profit's computer to save them money. All of a sudden 3 weeks ago they get a message about their OS being expired and it wouldn't boot up without a windows boot disc.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#36

Post by mikestew »

gwbas1c wrote: post #6

Include a remotely-activated kill switch; and kill with plenty of warning. What do I mean? I no longer use iPhone because I installed a beta iOS. When the official build came out, I kept "checking for updates" but I never got an update. One day, Apple remotely killed my phone. Manually updating to the production iOS would be fine; but remotely disabling my phone without warning was not acceptable. This is why I refus…

I no longer use iPhone because I installed a beta iOS.

...and didn't know what I was doing, nor did I read the well-documented warnings that are printed in multiple places. Then when things went down exactly as Apple warned me, multiple times, I went on the Internet to complain about it.

What warnings? Apple tells you up front that you can't upgrade to release from beta, you'll need to load it via iTunes or Xcode. Apple also warns that betas expire. And because "beta" is not "release", when Apple quits putting out betas, there is no "update" to update to. (How this currently works with public betas, I know not.)

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

#37

Post by kens »

singlow wrote: post #22
loeg wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the PC reboots with your work unsaved, you could lose a day's work, for example.

You have a day's worth of unsaved work?

In my case, I started a simulation running overnight. The next day I found that Windows had rebooted to install a patch and killed my simulation. (I'm now using a Mac.)

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by tedunangst »

bkmartin wrote: post #31
singlow wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a day's worth of unsaved work?

Not really your place to judge is it? What if they are in the middle of a long running task and the machine shuts down? Maybe it takes all day to run that process intensive task? Boom updates reboot the machine and a whole day's processing was lost. It is the users' prerogative on how they want to use their machine (poor software design choices and all) and if they don't want to take an automatic update and reboot th…

If this happens every week and you haven't done anything about it, well...

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by tedunangst »

monochromatic wrote: post #27
fit2rule wrote: post #18

This is such a Windows-person kind of solution. Come to think of it, I bet that this is why its so easy to change the wallpaper in Windows.

What would the Mac-person or Linux-person solution look like?

The linux solution would provide a new mechanism to configure sound.
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