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How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by abtinf »

ryukafalz wrote: post #20

>And there are some legal issues that are tied to the date a feature first becomes available to the public. Seeing a feature go public prematurely throws a bunch of scheduling into disarray because you now have to finish those legal documents in less time than you planned. As someone who's never worked for a company that produces commercial software, I'm curious about what he's referring to.

Among other things, it creates revenue recognition problems. If you have publically promised a future feature, you sometimes cannot recognize current revenue for the associated product until you deliver that feature. It makes for a very bad day.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by Locke1689 »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #48

Seems like you could've achieved the end-goal by just warning of the danger and coming across like their safety is your primary concern rather than finding the leaks, i.e.: "Build 97241 contains a potentially fatal bug that could wipe your computer. If you are using Build 97241, please upgrade it to a more recent build or otherwise cease using this build immediately. We do not care how you acquired this build. We sim…

This does not work.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by devopsproject »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #48

Seems like you could've achieved the end-goal by just warning of the danger and coming across like their safety is your primary concern rather than finding the leaks, i.e.: "Build 97241 contains a potentially fatal bug that could wipe your computer. If you are using Build 97241, please upgrade it to a more recent build or otherwise cease using this build immediately. We do not care how you acquired this build. We sim…

Have you ever taken a support phone call? Many people won't read a simple error message, let alone a message that includes numbers and other "technical mumbo jumbo"

customer: I'm trying print and it just says "error"

me: It just says error?

customer: yes

me: Are there any other words or error numbers?

customer: yeah, it says "No printers are installed. Add a printer and try again"

me: facepalm

Their solution works because it communicates a lot while saying very little

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by anyfoo »

shiggerino wrote: post #54

Since those things are already so riddled with DRM, why not simply make the internal builds phone home to an activation server that only allows IPs assigned to Microsoft?

The story, like a lot of stories on the Old New Thing, appears to be from a now faraway time (in Information Technology terms). Think Windows 95 timeframe.

They are practically always worth a read, by the way. I'm a huge fan of the blog.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by serge2k »

bkmartin wrote: post #31
singlow wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have a day's worth of unsaved work?

Not really your place to judge is it? What if they are in the middle of a long running task and the machine shuts down? Maybe it takes all day to run that process intensive task? Boom updates reboot the machine and a whole day's processing was lost. It is the users' prerogative on how they want to use their machine (poor software design choices and all) and if they don't want to take an automatic update and reboot th…

Lost a 3d print because of windows update.

Switched to Octopi after that.

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by serge2k »

tedunangst wrote: post #40
monochromatic wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would the Mac-person or Linux-person solution look like?

The linux solution would provide a new mechanism to configure sound.

Apple would issue a release saying "Don't do X. If you do X and it wipes your computer then obviously you are using your computer wrong".

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by anyfoo »

AdmiralAsshat wrote: post #48

Seems like you could've achieved the end-goal by just warning of the danger and coming across like their safety is your primary concern rather than finding the leaks, i.e.: "Build 97241 contains a potentially fatal bug that could wipe your computer. If you are using Build 97241, please upgrade it to a more recent build or otherwise cease using this build immediately. We do not care how you acquired this build. We sim…

This may have been long before the Internet was the information channel for those kinds of things that it is today.

Even if it was today and such a note was published on the Internet, do you think that people who use leaked builds--in at least semi-production settings even--would see that note, much less actively seek it out?

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by DougWebb »

Mithaldu wrote: post #50
DougWebb wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I could buy the Pro version as an individual, and run it on an isolated machine, as I've done with every prior version of Windows I've purchased, I probably would have upgraded by now. Since they don't offer that, and the non-pro version treats ALL users as imbeciles who cannot manage to keep their machines secure and up to date, and who are unable to decide for themselves if the benefits of participating in usage…

Are you thinking of the Enterprise version? Pro is available just fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZSHDJ4O/ And my Win 10 is Pro since i upgrade it from Win 7 Pro.

Hmm, I am. Does the Pro version support turning off the privacy and updating features without being joined to a domain? If there is only partial control, that's not good enough. Otherwise I may owe you a beer :)

Re: How to get people who installed a leaked build to stop using that build?

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Post by [deleted] »

Mithaldu wrote: post #50
DougWebb wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I could buy the Pro version as an individual, and run it on an isolated machine, as I've done with every prior version of Windows I've purchased, I probably would have upgraded by now. Since they don't offer that, and the non-pro version treats ALL users as imbeciles who cannot manage to keep their machines secure and up to date, and who are unable to decide for themselves if the benefits of participating in usage…

Are you thinking of the Enterprise version? Pro is available just fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZSHDJ4O/ And my Win 10 is Pro since i upgrade it from Win 7 Pro.

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