In Norway, everyone can know how much you earn [video]

Post by draw_down » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 5:56 PM UTC

intothemild wrote: post #85

Here in Oslo I was in a startup where we had a British CEO. He argued about me keeping my pay rise secret. I said there's no such thing. We all know what we earn. It's public. He was shocked. Then next day decided to tell everyone it was a fireable offence to disclose your salary. Which we then said. That the action of making it a fireable offence is actually illegal and a fireable offence. (He quit a number of month…

Post by ACS_Solver » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 6:00 PM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #49

ACS_Solver wrote: post #44

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I have the opposite experience, I moved to Scandinavia (Sweden), and this is still one of the weirder things to me. I like the ideas of transparency in general that are prevalent, but I don't see how publishing the tax returns of individual citizens working in the private sector contributes to transparency.

The transparency goes a long way in Sweden. You can call the tax office and say "I want this person and all his relatives' social security numbers, income statements, address history etc etc". They can't question it and you don't need any reason.

Post by Broken_Hippo » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 6:02 PM UTC

jkot wrote: post #119

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #116

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The thing is, I've not seen it. I've known a few immigrants, one from Poland, that has had them called. One had observation and classes, the other nothing. I'm not saying that any of it is perfect, as it isn't that anywhere, but what you are saying isn't either.

I think we are on a different planets. I just told you parent is not even allowed to talk to a lawyer, if such thing happens and escalates.

Post by Kiro » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 6:08 PM UTC

ACS_Solver wrote: post #124

Kiro wrote: post #49

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The transparency goes a long way in Sweden. You can call the tax office and say "I want this person and all his relatives' social security numbers, income statements, address history etc etc". They can't question it and you don't need any reason.

I still don't see how this is a boost to transparency. I tend to think of transparency in terms of the government being transparent, not me being able to get information on random people. How does society as a whole benefit when I can check my neighbor's income? I'm also slightly uneasy with services like hitta.se, though I am not as paranoid as I used to be. It's possible to see the average income in some residentia…

Post by widforss » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 6:27 PM UTC

donretag wrote: post #61

widforss wrote: post #16

What? You cannot do this in every democratic country? The government should be transparent, therefore everything the government bodies do that does not obviously need to be protected should be public.

Many governments (state and local) are required to publish the salaries of THEIR employees. They cannot pass laws (here in the US) to require the same from employees in the private sector, but they can for public employees.