Japan's Unprecedented Warning to UK Over Brexit

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 3:50 PM UTC

mattmanser wrote: post #83

wuschel wrote: post #72

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Please correct me if I am wrong - as I understand, the referendum for the BREXIT is not binding. As such, there is a lot of fuss and hot air about things that will possibly not materialize. Not to mention all those speculative business affairs..

No, it's happening. As in like the most likely thing to happen next is that it will happen. It's not binding as in they could theoretically put it to an MP vote and reject it, but it would be utter political suicide for any party that did. So it's only not binding only if you're completely and utterly delusional. There would be riots, a major swing to UKIP, lots of 'safe' MPs would lose their seats, etc., etc.

Post by Amezarak » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 3:52 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #31

TillE wrote: post #8

It's really incredible that three months after the vote, we still haven't the slightest idea what post-Brexit UK will look like. Will they go for the EEA (the least destructive option), or will they - as Theresa May threatens - sacrifice everything just to limit immigration? Three months after the biggest decision in decades, and the subject is barely even being talked about seriously in the UK. I don't understand it…

GBP stopped falling though. Dunno if it's because brexit stalled or because the market thinks brexit will be fine.

Post by sbmassey » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 3:56 PM UTC

mpweiher wrote: post #98

clappski wrote: post #61

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As far as I was aware it was the areas that the least amount of immigrants that wanted to vote for leave, but at this point it's moot. And I wouldn't say that fears over immigration are xenophobic, I think that the referendum came at a terrible time when Europe as a whole is facing a big refugee (economic or not) problem that they still can't decide how to solve.

>areas that [have] the least amount of immigrants that wanted to vote for leave Ironic, isn't it? But absolutely typical. In Germany as well, the areas with highest anti-immigrant sentiments (and voting etc.) are the ones with the least amount of actual immigrants. Which kind of makes sense when you think about it...

Post by alkonaut » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 3:58 PM UTC

martinko wrote: post #7

Indeed the most likely scenario appears to be the 'Norwegian model', where the UK in essence remains in the single market and thus will have to follow European regulations but will have a much smaller say when it comes to the future direction of the EU. They will, however, have officially left the EU so the leave camp can pat their shoulders over their Pyrrhic victory.

Post by sverige » Sun, Sep 04, 2016, 3:59 PM UTC

wuschel wrote: post #86

m0nty wrote: post #80

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It isn't legally binding, and although the Prime Minister said she doesn't intend to consult parliament about it, parliament will still need to repeal the European Communities Act which took us into the EU in the first place. So they could say "no", but I think it unlikely in the current political climate. It is binding in the sense that it's "the will of the people", albeit by a slender margin, and it's kind of tric…

I understand, thanks for elaborating on that matter. In a way, a clean way to do it would to be a call for elections, and a proper mandate - either to stay in, or stay out. But that might not happen, considering the nature of the political game. I agree about the reasons to worry, and to have a proper discussion. Things tend to get out of hand sometimes when it comes to media.