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Google Takes on Uber with New Ride-Share Service

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Post by jonahx »

michaelmrose wrote: post #354
themartorana wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't believe you. No one I know likes tipping. It's awkward no matter how you slice it. We would all much rather just pay what it costs and not have to tip. -- Looked it up. You were right. Well, at least in the pay structure. 85% of surveyed people prefer a tipping pay structure to including it in the price of food. I think it has to do with the perceived idea that tipping leaves the diner in control and leaves t…

No job wherein the customer directly employs you should give customers direct control of employees wages. Can you imagine the custom applied across the board. I'm sorry doctor that appendectomy scar is a bit to big for my liking I'm only tipping you $180.

Honestly, this would greatly improve medical service in the US. Unfortunately, for sums this big there would be too many people willing to be dicks even when the service was good, so the system wouldn't work for that reason.

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Post by ancap »

jschwartzi wrote: post #321
emodendroket wrote: post #103

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Many workers not making a living wage receive some form of government assistance, so saying that they aren't all dying in a gutter seems beside the point.

And the point of forcing employers to pay a living wage is so that we don't have to subsidize their businesses via government assistance to their workers.

Whether there are good intentions(1) or not, the inevitable consequence of a "living wage", minimum wage, or whatever you call it, is unemployment among the least skilled--typically minorities and youth.

(1) There is plenty of evidence that unions pushing for increases in minimum wage is anything but good intentions and is a desire to boost the demand for union labor. This is especially evident by the fact that in many cases the increase in the minimum wage specifically excludes labor unions.

Re: Google Takes on Uber with New Ride-Share Service

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Post by ancap »

sp332 wrote: post #77
ancap wrote: post #32

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"Living wage"? Are you suggesting that uber and other drivers are all dead? \s (I know "living wage" is the hip buzzword, but it is a poor phrase, is hyperbolic, and creates a false picture that when these workers finish their shift they are going to go find some secluded gutter to die in from malnutrition)

If you're not making a living wage and you're not getting some form of welfare, then... yeah? I mean you might live as a homeless person for quite a while if you make enough for food but not rent.

There are all sorts of living arrangements which don't include welfare, that are affordable and attainable for most everyone. That being said, if housing is not affordable for 99.999% of the population the most glaring culprit is not employers, but local government leaders who prevent the construction of affordable housing.

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Post by imgabe »

xapata wrote: post #254
relaytheurgency wrote: post #185

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That is not true at all. Read the law. In a situation where a server's tips do not boost their hourly wage to the federal minimum wage, the employer is obligated to compensate them up to that level. So in a situation where, say, a server was never tipped, the employer would have to pay them $7.25 an hour just like any other food service worker who makes minimum wage.

As if managers never break the law. Plenty of managers pool the tips and take their cut from the pool. Illegal? Sure. What can anyone do about it? Only quit.

Quit and report the manager to the labor board. There are whole government departments, federally and in each state, dedicated to prosecuting people who do things like this. If people stop letting them get away with it, they'll stop doing it.

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Post by youarewhite »

michaelmrose wrote: post #363
Throwaway585250 wrote: post #214

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Yours is showing too, along with an unhealthy dose of smugness. GP literally chose to be homeless instead of licking the boots of the wealthy for table scraps, which is a degree of courage above and beyond what could have been expected of him, but it was still courage. Saying that his ability to do this is privileged, is like claiming a man who saves a baby from a burning house is showing his able privilege: true, te…

I had to resist the urge to break into uncontrollable laughter when you compared living in your car to saving a baby from a burning building. Since this is a throwaway I strongly suspect you are your own cheerleader. Let me see if I can take you down a peg. A man who chooses to live in his own car instead of taking a servile job is presumably still in need of food to sustain him. You are basically glorifying living o…

You are quite the cunt aren't you

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Post by DasIch »

elcct wrote: post #402
DasIch wrote: post #394

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Right and after work the drivers and artists that work for exposure get food from the supermarket without paying because the supermarket gets exposure by them shopping there.

You are comparing apples to oranges. Driver with that experience could more easily find a job in the field.

Oh, yes I'm sure there is vast hierarchy to climb from junior, to senior up to rockstar ninja guru taxi driver.

A driving license will be more than sufficient for any driving job and if it isn't, you're applying for a job like truck, stunt or test driver that requires additional training anyway.

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Post by emodendroket »

ancap wrote: post #422
jschwartzi wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the point of forcing employers to pay a living wage is so that we don't have to subsidize their businesses via government assistance to their workers.

Whether there are good intentions(1) or not, the inevitable consequence of a "living wage", minimum wage, or whatever you call it, is unemployment among the least skilled--typically minorities and youth. (1) There is plenty of evidence that unions pushing for increases in minimum wage is anything but good intentions and is a desire to boost the demand for union labor. This is especially evident by the fact that in ma…

https://www.dol.gov/featured/minimum-wage/mythbuster

> Myth: Increasing the minimum wage will cause people to lose their jobs.

> Not true: In a letter to President Obama and congressional leaders urging a minimum wage increase, more than 600 economists, including 7 Nobel Prize winners wrote, "In recent years there have been important developments in the academic literature on the effect of increases in the minimum wage on employment, with the weight of evidence now showing that increases in the minimum wage have had little or no negative effect on the employment of minimum-wage workers, even during times of weakness in the labor market. Research suggests that a minimum-wage increase could have a small stimulative effect on the economy as low-wage workers spend their additional earnings, raising demand and job growth, and providing some help on the jobs front."

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Post by elchief »

coldpie wrote: post #411
hyperbovine wrote: post #82

> Unlike Uber and its crosstown rival Lyft Inc., both of which largely operate as on-demand taxi businesses, Waze wants to connect riders with drivers who are already headed in the same direction. Funny because that is Lyft's (né Zimride) original model. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

> Funny because that is Lyft's (né Zimride) Holy crow, I've always seen it spelled née, and sure enough, it's because it's almost always used when referring to a woman's name before marriage. Turns out né exists for men! Are companies masculine, then? (Gendered languages belong in the dumpster of history.)

See also fiancé / fiancée

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Post by blueline »

Grue3 wrote: post #416
luka-birsa wrote: post #357

Love it how Uber is getting Ubered by providing a service they were supposedly providing but it was only a marketing scam to get around Taxi regulation. This is proper "sharing economy" where the other party isn't doing this to make a living out of it. I wonder who will Airbnb the Airbnb and is that at all possible. The end will be the same anyways - both companies are competing for a spot on the customers mobile pho…

>I wonder who will Airbnb the Airbnb and is that at all possible. I think it's called "couchsurfing".

i dont think the overlap in users there is actually that big.

most of the people i know who couchsurf do so very regularly and travel a lot whereas myself and my general perception of airbnb users is that it ranges from super casual and not frequent to very hardcore and frequent.

i'd figure the overlap would only be at the high end of frequency of travel.

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Post by brndn »

mintplant wrote: post #132

I've noticed Google Maps will sometimes give me Uber ads when I'm looking up directions ("this route only $N on Uber" or such). Idle speculation but I wonder if this was a mistake for Uber -- perhaps Google has seen a high rate of click-through on these and will now try to get in on that action themselves.

It's not a regular GMaps ad, it only shows the Uber quote if you have the Uber app installed.
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