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Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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Comments like yours are very dangerous. They buy into the DARE framing of the dangers of drugs being death. But there are much more subtle dangers that get ignored when the discussion is framed this way. And I say this as someone who went through a prolonged depression following ecstacy use in my early 20s. I stupidly evaluated the dangers of the drug and determined that the naysayers who were warning of possible dea…

I went through depression after my first relationship. We don't warn children about the dangers of relationships, we just expect that they'll "figure it out" just like everyone else. You figured out the dangers of high ecstasy usage yourself. Are you one of these people who thinks nobody but you is capable of figuring out how to use it safely?

When talking about potential harm of a substance, it is important to qualify the risk. Transient down-regulation of serotonin receptors is not really the same thing as post-relationship breakup blues.

MDMA is famous for inducing temporary depression, ala a "breakup blues". The risk of extended or even permanent depression issues is not well known at this time, it does not seem likely from occasional doses as I understand it. But it still seems to remain a possibility with very high or extended doses. Certainly there's enough anecdotal reports out there that seem to suggest this.

Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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post #141
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The downside of this, sadly, is that he appears to have mental health issues. Unless he has some outside support, which may be difficult with his dad being dead and having been incarcerated since something like 1994, he would be rather likely to end up on the street, alone :( Here's hoping there are people on the outside to help him out.

>with his dad being dead -- For those unaware his father died in Prison. Why was he in Prison? Well the son committed the crime in the house the father owned. His father died 8 years into a 10 year prison sentence. Cruel.

Ok, curious, what circumstances led to that? The enforcement nowadays seems limited to civil forfeiture, where they would have seized ownership of the house without ever charging the dad, also an egregious act but very different from what happened here?

I read that Timothy was selling LSD to a DEA agent so this implies the entire case was federal? Do the feds still act this way in charging the homeowner instead of "merely" moving to seize the house?

Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are the words "executed" and "suspected" in the same sentence?!

It's basically mob justice over there, AFAICT

The president literally said in a speech, regarding what to do if you suspect someone of dealing drugs: "Please feel free to call us, the police, or do it yourself if you have the gun — you have my support"

Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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post #48

It's crazy to spend that much time in jail for a nonviolent offense, and such a small amount of substance in the US. The war on drugs is a big waste of many things. But to put it in perspective, I am currently living in SE Asia where you are informed by airline announcements and signs that drug trafficking is punishable by death in several of the countries here! I'm from Brooklyn, but I live in Indonesia now. I'm cur…

It wasn't an 'offense' it was plural 'offenses' as in three. And we aren't talking about personal possession we are talking about intent to distribute. The distinction between these are night and day.

"According to a pre-sentencing memorandum, Tyler was charged with selling 13,000 hits of acid, found on 13 sheets of paper and equivalent to several grams of liquid. Tyler pleaded guilty to drug distribution...."

Wikipedia. Plus the two prior offenses.

And here I was looking at the title and thinking they'd outlawed the Dead.

Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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"I get that the right to consume any substance one wants into one's own body is a basic human right"." To do that you have to posses it first, which is a felony. Felony != "human right". Whatever the fuck a "human right" even is supposed to mean. Dumbass

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Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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Not stupid is still a thing. You're describing "institutionalized" income classism, not racism. Dumbass. Also educationism. Is anybody not pants on head retarded?

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Re: Grateful Dead Fan Timothy Tyler Has Been Granted Clemency

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What is it with. "I don't believe in the war on drugs." "The amount wasn't that much." Make up your minds you schizophrenic fucks. Either you're for it or against it. Jesus Christ.

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