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Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Post by duaneb » Sun, Aug 28, 2016, 6:21 PM UTC

beachy wrote: post #140

andreasklinger wrote: post #112

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i didnt mean that i think for now every of the big players will create their own apps/boxes - i imagine "prime TV" at some point the fragmentation will annoy customers so much that they will find ways to combine - but that's in 5-10 years

Might never happen. Chromecast is so cheap that its probably putting downwards price pressure on the devices themselves. And I don't personally have any issue flicking between all of my various "set top" boxes: chromecast, WD Live, Apple TV, old school dvd player, Tivo. After all, what issues does this fragmentation cause, apart from a bit of a mess of HDMI cables, and a shortage of HDMI ports on the TV?

It's just a different type of DRM lockin. It's absurd the store from which we buy content can dictate how and where we consume it.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Post by paulcole » Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 4:44 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #165

paulcole wrote: post #24

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NFL rights alone will (my guess) cost around 5 billion USD per year when the next contracts are negotiated, maybe more. There is no way an online service puts up that kind of money considering something like 1/3 of Americans simply don't have high-speed internet access.

The last time the rights were negotiated in 2013, they were $40B, with ESPN paying about double what NBC, CBS and Fox payed. There is one company with the kind of money that might make sense -- Apple. It would be a heck of a way for them to jumpstart a streaming service and make it only available on AppleTV. Probably the biggest holdup would be the NFL itself, who makes sure those broadcast contracts reach the bigges…

Apple really is the only option that makes sense, but mostly because it just doesn't make sense for anyone else. Would love to see it happen. I pay $50/month during the season for Sunday Ticket and the service is just OK. Would love to see a better take on it.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Post by gedrap » Mon, Aug 29, 2016, 7:08 AM UTC

wesleytodd wrote: post #159

Analemma_ wrote: post #5

With all that growth opportunity, you'd think they could invest a little more in the engineering side. I mean, I like Twitch, but their platform is still a mess. Chat delay can be a minute or more, and the VOD situation still sucks (60 days? Seriously?). I mean, they're owned by the people who run AWS for crying out loud. They should be able to knock this out of the park. I thought YouTube Gaming was going to muscle…

Fully acknowledging that some of the things they have issues with, my startup also has issues with, BUT: My startup is under 2 years old, in the same space, and with a much smaller team. We have solved almost all of the technical problems twitch faces, and even released many other features that Twitch is only now also working on. We have regularly looked at this market and what keeps fueling twitch's success, and str…

>>> It has NOTHING to do with the user experience of the product, nothing to do with the quality of the tech.

Good UX is a bonus, can be useful for growth, competing with other products once the content is on a similar level, etc. However, yes, the content is the key, yes. People come for the content, not for some extra feature (and extra features often affect only a small percentage of the users).

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Post by dmoy » Wed, Aug 31, 2016, 1:19 AM UTC

duaneb wrote: post #170

dmoy wrote: post #68

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Given that, e.g. amazon stopped selling Chromecast, I don't have high hopes for interoperability here.

Why do this to your customers. It means Amazon video money is wasted unless I own a fire stick--and who the hell owns a fire stick? The only reason to buy it is Amazon video!

No, it is possible to get amazon video over chromecast. It's a bit hacky, but it works.

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Post by overcast » Sat, Sep 03, 2016, 5:33 PM UTC

nommm-nommm wrote: post #59

overcast wrote: post #54

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Correct, and Nintendo already puts the lockdown on that hardcore.

Since when? I've never had a problem finding Mario play throughs. EDIT: Just did a sanity check search, Mario Kart 8 playthrough, been up for 2 years, a million and a half views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR0l84gjEXg

News today.

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/09/nintendos-dmca-backed-...