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Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Why do you think content owners would see this as IP theft rather than free advertising? Are people watching play throughs rather than playing it themselves?

It heavily depends on the game. There are lots of single-player games where the story is much better than the actual game mechanics. Or where watching somebody figure out all the puzzles is more fun than doing it yourself. Here, streamers and let's-players likely cause a decrease in game sales. In simulation and competitive games on the other hand streamers should usually cause more sales then they prevent. As one le…

Well that just means that developers will start focusing less on story and more on mechanics. In a way, streaming will change what developers focus on when making their games in order to adapt.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Watching people play video games is something I still don't understand.

Watching people play golf is something that ton's of people don't understand. Nor chasing a black thing around on ice with sticks given the ratings. Yet you realize tons of people do watch these things.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Twitch is a very interesting linguistical experiment, as the chat emotes can be used to convey very subtle nuances in meaning, unlike anything we've seen before, off- or online. For example, Kappa is a smug face denoting sarcasm, superiority, condescension and arrogance, but can imply any of those meanings subverted. Combining the emotes together, along with standard ASCII characters, can produce very complex and astoundingly compact stories[0].

[0] http://i.imgur.com/sVQr7wY.jpg

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Maybe the most useful interview I've ever done on Mixergy is with Twitch's cofounder about how he founded the company. Do yourself a favor and get the transcript. He's super-methodical. https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Bcu32XwL4S0BHB2fybaqRRQ...

What about the audio version? Can you link to the podcast?

Thanks.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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twitch is twitch. Who really searches for Twitch, instead of just visiting the site and searching for content there?

Hmm, this is interesting, for FB as a comparison: https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=facebook

Yep, corresponds almost perfectly with the rise of their mobile app.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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nintendo? not exactly unprecedented.

Nintendo has an antiquated grasp of business though and will go under even sooner if they continue with this type of behaviour. They are currently fueled on goodwill and nostalgia value. A complete outlier in that aspect.

Maybe, but that still means it's not unprecedented

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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twitch can do 60+ fps, lots of people on twitch stream 720p60fps, it's arguably the best balance between quality and bandwidth cost the only limiting factor is the bitrate limit of 3500 https://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1253460-broa...

Yeah... try it at the LCS. Twitch's tech blows in every aspect imaginable. Shitty site, shitty flash, shitty mobile experience, shitty stream. It's a pity they have such a stronghold on streamers+viewers.

They are currently beta testing the js player.

https://blog.twitch.tv/html5-beta-access-expands-99554ea982e...

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Amazon bought two things with Twitch: 1) A social community 2) a monetization model. The video service itself is secondary. The past several years has shown the social communities grow organically. But its hard to make users adopt one. If you build it, they probably won't come. It's easier for a big company to buy one up than start one from scratch. (Think Instagram versus Google Plus). Second, Twitch is one of the f…

>Twitch has shied away from dark patterns that lock out adblocking users. I don't see any big modals or disabled video if I run an adblocker on Twitch. This is no doubt on purpose. I vividly remember this not being the case, whereas (at least in partnered streams) if twitch detected an ad-blocker it would stop the stream and then fill your screen with recommendations to subscribe to the streamer. What ended up happen…

I watch an average of 8 hours of twitch daily while working from home. I use adblockers without issues on their site. The only thing that I had to mess with was uMatrix, but that happens everywhere, especially with so many CDNs etc loading content.

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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With all that growth opportunity, you'd think they could invest a little more in the engineering side. I mean, I like Twitch, but their platform is still a mess. Chat delay can be a minute or more, and the VOD situation still sucks (60 days? Seriously?). I mean, they're owned by the people who run AWS for crying out loud. They should be able to knock this out of the park. I thought YouTube Gaming was going to muscle…

Fully acknowledging that some of the things they have issues with, my startup also has issues with, BUT:

My startup is under 2 years old, in the same space, and with a much smaller team. We have solved almost all of the technical problems twitch faces, and even released many other features that Twitch is only now also working on.

We have regularly looked at this market and what keeps fueling twitch's success, and strictly speaking people go where the content is. It has NOTHING to do with the user experience of the product, nothing to do with the quality of the tech. If there are 500 people streaming the game you want to watch on twitch and 10 on another platform, the viewers stay on twitch.

Anyway, it is an interesting problem, and one that all competitors in this space are facing. And has clearly not pushed twitch out in any way.

Finally the self promotion if anyone is interested in our product: https://www.stream.me

Re: Twitch could be a $20B company within Amazon

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Steam(Valve) could be next on Amazon's list. Desktop application: Add - amazon shopping - streaming - viewing - social ...

Steam could launch their own streaming video platform. I don't see any reason why they haven't done so already. They're in a perfect spot for it.
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