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California bans ITT tech from accepting new students

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Re: California bans ITT tech from accepting new students

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Why can't there be such thing as a good for-profit school? We buy the highest quality smartphones from Apple and Samsung after all - I don't see a lot of non-profit phones or government phones.

Typically the get bought out by shady operators and converted to the same con game...extra bonus if they acquire some accreditation.

Now that bootcamps have proven successful, many of these companies have bought them out too!

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ITT seems like an easy first place to go because of their shady rep, but I think the risk here is that well entrenched interests in will ultimately give bootcamps and other online training courses the same treatment if they start eating into the educational establishment's pie too much. We have to be careful of a slippery slope.

Too late, some of the bigger chains have been bought out.

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As someone who graduated from an Ivy Leage school, and boarding school before that, all on full financial aid with zero loans, I count myself incredibly lucky. I also see the student loan system as incredibly fucked up. The worst aspect of it to me is that the most predatory loans go to the lowest qualified students, who are the ones who get the lower paying jobs. Top universities are the only ones with loan-free, ne…

Actually these students qualify for a large amount of federal student loans due to poverty.

Private student loan vendors are would never lend to these for-profit students with out collateral or a well off co-signer.

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I believe many ITT students are from India.

I doubt it. Even if we wanted to waste our money there, the chances of getting a F1 visa is slim to none. Maybe there are Indians attending these schools illegally but pretty sure it's not large enough for anyone to notice. Do you have a source?

There is a con where guys looking for a usa visa get accepted at a school with no classes. i wouldnt be surprised if some for-profits did this on the side for extra cash.

Also, some foreigners just dont know any better and get conned.

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I believe many ITT students are from India.

I doubt it. Even if we wanted to waste our money there, the chances of getting a F1 visa is slim to none. Maybe there are Indians attending these schools illegally but pretty sure it's not large enough for anyone to notice. Do you have a source?

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I think it's also important that sometimes it can be misunderstanding the question. I know it sounds silly because it's written clearly here, but in a spoken interview it's possible an interviewee can miss a detail and suddenly think they're faced with travelling salesmen. Or are worried about I/O Of course in those situations, the "right" thing to do is ask for clarification, or think out loud. And an interviewer sh…

This is pretty significant. I recently had the opportunity to sit in on some meetings & IM conversations with a recruiting team at my workplace, and was pleasantly surprised with how detailed they were in honing their interview approach. One proposed open-ended interview question in particular (these recruiters utilize both coding exercises & open-ended questions, plus some other stuff), "What's the difference betwee…

That's a deep question. Allocating large objects on the stack is usually frowned upon. (Especially in places with small stack limits, such as the Linux kernel.) It's common to allocate just the header for a variable sized object on the stack, but put the bulk data on the "heap". C++ vector classes do this. On-stack variable size arrays were in the C standard for a few years, Microsoft didn't implement them, and they were kicked out of C as a feature. Stack variables are usually live enough that you want the top of the stack in the cache, and big on-stack objects can break that.

Should programmers in interviews know that?

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This is pretty significant. I recently had the opportunity to sit in on some meetings & IM conversations with a recruiting team at my workplace, and was pleasantly surprised with how detailed they were in honing their interview approach. One proposed open-ended interview question in particular (these recruiters utilize both coding exercises & open-ended questions, plus some other stuff), "What's the difference betwee…

At one company we were reviewing the interview questions we used for graduates, and we had to take one out about a hypothetical factory manufacturing widgets. It was actually a simple maths problem about widgets per hour given various inputs. But the grads would freak out at the word "widget" and derail the interview demanding an explanation of what exactly a widget was, what it was used for, etc etc. I personally th…

In manufacturing, you use the term "part" for one instance of a unique thing, and "part number" for a class of identical parts. But people who have never been in a factory may not know that.

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I've heard stories like that before. Serious question, what do those people actually do? Are they just so far removed from these general type of questions that they can not answer them or do they have no programming ability at all? It just strikes me as bizarre

Never-ending projects that never deliver, and management that never looks at the code. Also, cheating your way through college - which is basically a requirement for a lot of programs that offer a vertical learning curve, programs spoiled by the fact that many of the people who take a CS program have been hobbyist programmers for years. After the second semester, CS students divide into three groups: 1) stressed out…

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Re: California bans ITT tech from accepting new students

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At one company we were reviewing the interview questions we used for graduates, and we had to take one out about a hypothetical factory manufacturing widgets. It was actually a simple maths problem about widgets per hour given various inputs. But the grads would freak out at the word "widget" and derail the interview demanding an explanation of what exactly a widget was, what it was used for, etc etc. I personally th…

In manufacturing, you use the term "part" for one instance of a unique thing, and "part number" for a class of identical parts. But people who have never been in a factory may not know that.

If we'd have said parts we would have got the same reaction, parts for what? what are they made of? they would have asked. As I say it was meant to be a simple maths problem, but what many of them failed on was what was an even more basic skill of extracting the relevant parts of a sentence.
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