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A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Post by digi_owl »

theklub wrote: post #52
oblio wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want remote experiences in Europe, check out Apuseni or Maramures in Romania. Entire remote regions with people mostly living like hundreds of years ago. Apuseni: http://szelmob.com/viatori/images/Blog/transylvania/Apuseni-... Maramures: http://romaniatourism.com/images/maramures/maramures-barsana...

When I was little I remember thinking everyone in Europe lived like that for some reason.

And sometimes it feels like that is exactly what the tourist office wants.

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Post by Brybry »

zdkl wrote: post #41
rusanu wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bog iron [0] production was the predominant way of smelting iron before technology advanced to the point of being able to smelt iron ores. Iron Production in the Viking Age [1] has a really nice description and pictures of the process. This kind of smelting can be done with a small bloomery [2] and the resulted tiny iron specs result is called sponge iron. I wish Dwarf Fortress would implement this chain for environs…

If you can work a forteress without both coal derivatives AND metallic ores deposits, you're a better dorf than I am.

There are smelting bugs in the game where melting down certain items produces more metal than it takes to make them.

That and hatch covers (building destroyers can't destroy on different z-axis) makes it really hard to lose in Fun ways. Most of my fortresses die from FPS death.

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Post by kharms »

The three siblings are believed to have died from pneumonia.

Yerafei expresses doubt, saying "how could they get infected from us if they never took anything? For a long time, they didn't take our water, our food. If anything, Agafia should have gotten sick. Why? Well, I once grabbed her and kissed her."

Kissing facilitates the exchange of microbiota[0] and that exchange can strengthen the immune system. Might be that kiss saved her life.

[0 - Shaping the oral microbiota through intimate kissing](https://microbiomejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186...)

Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Post by zizzles »

Isolated, but not as isolated as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese_people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

Forget being unaware of WWII. Try being unaware of what a car or phone or airplane or office building is, let alone the idea of a "world war".

Look how primitive they behave.

https://imgur.com/gallery/tWY1o

Imagine taking one of these tribesman on a tour through Times Square NYC.

Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Post by ddalex »

oblio wrote: post #50
jjallen wrote: post #44

Another interesting place, though not nearly as isolated, is Lukomir, Bosnia. It was remote enough during the Yugoslavian war that the war never really made it up there (though there was little reason to probably). You have to drive an hour and a half from Sarajevo to a small village. From there, Lukomir is another six miles up into the hills at ~2,500 meters elevation. You can now drive up there, but I strongly reco…

If you want remote experiences in Europe, check out Apuseni or Maramures in Romania. Entire remote regions with people mostly living like hundreds of years ago. Apuseni: http://szelmob.com/viatori/images/Blog/transylvania/Apuseni-... Maramures: http://romaniatourism.com/images/maramures/maramures-barsana...

Yes, please visit Transylvania. The vampires need fresh blood.

Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Post by stormbrew »

zizzles wrote: post #64

Isolated, but not as isolated as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island Forget being unaware of WWII. Try being unaware of what a car or phone or airplane or office building is, let alone the idea of a "world war". Look how primitive they behave. https://imgur.com/gallery/tWY1o Imagine taking one of these tribesman on a tour through Times Square NYC.

They do not seem unaware of modern technology, from the info on these links. They seem like they reject it.

Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

duaneb wrote: post #57
tmptmp wrote: post #38

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A very humbling experience, great videos and great efforts. I wonder, how many years (centuries) might have gone into inventing, discovering and perfecting even this "primitive" technology. Not to undermine his efforts, but this guy could do all this "so fast" mostly because he is working in a rather comfortable and secure environment of modern and more civilized times, whereas the real primitives had to look out for…

> the real primitives had to look out for predators (lions, tigers, etc), for other human attackers and so on. I'm not sure what you're imagining pre-history to be like, but humans are generally the top of every food chain. It's also very rarely worth it to attack another human without desired resources. The big risk in Eurasia would be wolves, who would have to be very hungry. Non-pack animals usually are a threat w…

Before agriculture they didn't have this security, and spent most of their time foraging anyways. It is no coincidence that technology evolves much faster after the beginning of agriculture.

Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Post by Inthenameofmine »

jjallen wrote: post #44

Another interesting place, though not nearly as isolated, is Lukomir, Bosnia. It was remote enough during the Yugoslavian war that the war never really made it up there (though there was little reason to probably). You have to drive an hour and a half from Sarajevo to a small village. From there, Lukomir is another six miles up into the hills at ~2,500 meters elevation. You can now drive up there, but I strongly reco…

Reminds me of Theth in Northern Albania. The villagers there apparently never came in touch with the Ottomans for 500 years.
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