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A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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Re: A Russian Family Was Isolated for 40 Years, Unaware of WWII (2013)

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This reminds me to the Hun village in the Swiss Alps:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anniviers or http://archive.worldhistoria.com/the-hunnic-swiss-valley-val...

Because the difficult landscape, these villages were isolated and kept the culture and some of the language. Funny to see the motifs on my mom's table cloths or the ornaments on my far relatives' main gatein Transylvania are exactly the same.

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Another interesting place, though not nearly as isolated, is Lukomir, Bosnia. It was remote enough during the Yugoslavian war that the war never really made it up there (though there was little reason to probably). You have to drive an hour and a half from Sarajevo to a small village. From there, Lukomir is another six miles up into the hills at ~2,500 meters elevation. You can now drive up there, but I strongly reco…

If you want remote experiences in Europe, check out Apuseni or Maramures in Romania. Entire remote regions with people mostly living like hundreds of years ago. Apuseni: http://szelmob.com/viatori/images/Blog/transylvania/Apuseni-... Maramures: http://romaniatourism.com/images/maramures/maramures-barsana...

When I was little I remember thinking everyone in Europe lived like that for some reason.

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Another interesting place, though not nearly as isolated, is Lukomir, Bosnia. It was remote enough during the Yugoslavian war that the war never really made it up there (though there was little reason to probably). You have to drive an hour and a half from Sarajevo to a small village. From there, Lukomir is another six miles up into the hills at ~2,500 meters elevation. You can now drive up there, but I strongly reco…

If you want remote experiences in Europe, check out Apuseni or Maramures in Romania. Entire remote regions with people mostly living like hundreds of years ago. Apuseni: http://szelmob.com/viatori/images/Blog/transylvania/Apuseni-... Maramures: http://romaniatourism.com/images/maramures/maramures-barsana...

+1 for this (even though as a Romanian I'm a little biased). For comparison, I got to visit Switzerland this summer. One of the most beautiful places I've visited, the mountains looked gorgeous, but I was continuously feeling that vibe that it was all a man-made park.

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Thanks for sharing. Just watched it very interesting. It was nostalgic seeing the old prayer book in Slavonic, with pages almost brown from being leafed through and used daily. I remembered by grandfather's books, they used to be like that. He tried to teach me some Slavonic, remember at least knowing the alphabet enough to read the words. Then I like how Agafia explains what it is like to listen to the news about th…

(can't edit post so I'll reply to it instead) It looks like Yerofei the man next door has died last year and so Agafia is all alone again. http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/n0230-friend-to-r...

The article claims "Over the years Yerofey Sedov looked out for 71-year-old Agafya", but it fails to mention that Agafia did not find him helpful and that he did a 'sinful act' and blackmailed her. https://youtu.be/tt2AYafET68?t=1141

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Primitive Technology is really interesting. This guy is super good at it : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA He's trying to get iron smelted right now, but that's really hard. It seems the problem the Lykovs ran into was that their metal items rusted after a while and they couldn't repair them. It's really hard to live without pots, and knives.

A very humbling experience, great videos and great efforts. I wonder, how many years (centuries) might have gone into inventing, discovering and perfecting even this "primitive" technology. Not to undermine his efforts, but this guy could do all this "so fast" mostly because he is working in a rather comfortable and secure environment of modern and more civilized times, whereas the real primitives had to look out for…

> the real primitives had to look out for predators (lions, tigers, etc), for other human attackers and so on.

I'm not sure what you're imagining pre-history to be like, but humans are generally the top of every food chain. It's also very rarely worth it to attack another human without desired resources. The big risk in Eurasia would be wolves, who would have to be very hungry. Non-pack animals usually are a threat when sleeping or to children, not an awake adult who can, well, walk away or climb a tree.

Point is: you're much more likely to die from starvation, infection, or disease while pursuing technology. Time was a major issue: any time not spent feeding yourself had better help you feed yourself later.

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Another interesting place, though not nearly as isolated, is Lukomir, Bosnia. It was remote enough during the Yugoslavian war that the war never really made it up there (though there was little reason to probably). You have to drive an hour and a half from Sarajevo to a small village. From there, Lukomir is another six miles up into the hills at ~2,500 meters elevation. You can now drive up there, but I strongly reco…

If you want remote experiences in Europe, check out Apuseni or Maramures in Romania. Entire remote regions with people mostly living like hundreds of years ago. Apuseni: http://szelmob.com/viatori/images/Blog/transylvania/Apuseni-... Maramures: http://romaniatourism.com/images/maramures/maramures-barsana...

Or pretty much all of Moldova outside of Chisinau. Cobbled streets, gas lighting, donkey carts. I doubt it's changed much in the past four years.

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Bog iron [0] production was the predominant way of smelting iron before technology advanced to the point of being able to smelt iron ores. Iron Production in the Viking Age [1] has a really nice description and pictures of the process. This kind of smelting can be done with a small bloomery [2] and the resulted tiny iron specs result is called sponge iron. I wish Dwarf Fortress would implement this chain for environs…

If you can work a forteress without both coal derivatives AND metallic ores deposits, you're a better dorf than I am.

Do you have water? A pump room with specific gates is a great way to murder traders and steal all of their things without them declaring war on you.

However, this entirely breaks the game and if you dont have your entrances and exists covered, you will be sieged VERY soon.

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Earlier discussion on the same article on HN, few years back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5134023 Edit: On HN, you occasionally see can't forget articles, every once in a while. This is one of those..

On "Can't forget articles" I really wish there was a curated Hacker News archive. I encounter so many new things which are exciting, thought provoking and amazing stuff on HN. Or if they would extend HN with a Categories section.

You now have the "favorites" function, with which you can publicly mark articles.

Perhaps a rank of the most favorite articles would do that.

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